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  • #6420
    moehat
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    I’m sorry to appear a bit dim [nothing new there then] but, looking at yesterday’s competition – congratulations by the way! – Taranis was mentioned in the 2.50 at Southwell – I thought he’d been retired after the King George…can someone explain to me what has happened? thanks.

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    Grasshopper
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    Taranis (FR) has been retired after the King George………….

    #138464
    Bulwark
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    Its a different taranis, I was a bit confused when I saw that yesterday, but then I saw there was one born 2001 and one born 2003 (I think), both exactly the same spelling of the name but the other one is with henderson and probably isnt as good as his namesake…

    #138469
    moehat
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    thanks, I was really confused; how strange that 2 horses should have the same name….I guess it was something to do with one of them being French or something. Was hoping that the old boy had made some sort of miracle recovery….

    #138470
    Tuffers
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    I noticed that Redemption was attempting an across the card double on Saturday

    #138472
    moehat
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    hells bells, not two Redemptions – one’s enough, bless him!!

    #138521
    PAULCS
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    Is it absolutely definite that Taranis is retired or is there a 5% chance that he might return?

    #138550
    carvillshill
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    This thread shows how stupid it is that there isn’t an agreement between the major racing natiions on a common naming database to avoid the duplication of names within a five or ten year period and the protection of good horse’s names for twenty or so years. While the British Handicapper is on his world tour trying to acheive standardisation of stewarding he should get agreement on this as well.

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    carvillshill
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    As it stands you can have horses in the UK, France, the US and elsewhere with the same name. This causes some confusion when they end up racing in the same country, like the two Taranises (Tarani?)

    #138560
    LetsGetRacing
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    As it stands you can have horses bred/born in different countries registered with exactly the same name – in this case Taranis (GB), and Taranis (FR).

    But is it really that big a problem?

    Given the limit of 18 characters for a horse’s name, can you imagine the troubles we’d have if every name worldwide were unique – the first tomorrow could conceivably be between Aeuhurehurvniuv, Guhjsdsderuevv and Ubnellywoosh (completely random, but I rather like the last one :D ).

    #138568
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Wonder what wetherbys would do if you bought an import called "Tafucwiyu" and brought him here to race :wink: love to here a commentator get his lips round that one

    Incidentally that name was passed by them for owner Brian Morton then they contacted him and told him it had to be changed.

    #138574
    jodami16
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    In recent years down under, this particular problem has been combated with the owners of the horse bred in the other country having to add an appendage to it’s name.

    The most notable I can recall was a NZ 2 year old called McGinty who came and raced in Australia as Mr McGinty. He won about half a dozen group 1s in Australia. Went back to NZ and raced as McGinty again but was retired to stud for a few years in Australia and had to stand as Mr McGinty again.

    Convoluted or what?

    #138575
    Smithy
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    This was one of my favourites………

    YARMOUTH
    30 June 1994
    Good

    My Result Result

    4:30 Hemsby Conditions Stakes (Class C) (Class 3) (3yo+) (7f3y) 7f

    [off 4:31] £5,381.48, £1,995.32, £960.66, £396.30, £161.15, £5,381.48

    Draw TRAINER Age Wgt JOCKEY SP OR TS RPR

    1 Nijo 3 G A Pritchard-Gordon 3 8-8 R Cochrane 20/1 0 83 104
    2 nk River Board 5 W J Haggas 4 9-2 W Woods 5/1 0 81 102
    3 2 Blue Lion 9 G Wragg 4 9-3 Michael Hills 6/4F 0 78 100
    4 4 Stremizi 8 L M Cumani 3 8-5 C Hodgson(3) 20/1 0 67 93+C
    5 shd Averti (IRE) 1 W R Muir 3 8-10 M Roberts 16/1 0 — —
    6 6 Averti (USA) 6 H R A Cecil 3 8-4 1 Pat Eddery 11/2 0 53 80
    7 ¾ Tykeyvor (IRE) 2 M H Tompkins 4 8-10 S Mulvey(5) 25/1 0 48 80C
    8 20 Fawran (USA) 4 J H M Gosden 3 8-8 v L Dettori 9/2 0 11 —
    9 1¼ Tryst (IRE) 7 Dr J D Scargill 3 8-10 Darryll Holland 10/1 0 10 —

    #138576
    seabird
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    Just tp point out that the Plum Pudding running at Taunton this afternoon isn’t the same Plum Pudding that is rated in the 90s on the flat and has won a couple of nice handicaps at HQ.

    One has the suffix (Fr) (today’s) and t’other (Ire).

    Colin

    #138679
    Getzippy
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    Poor ol’ Redemption – is anyone still backing him?

    (I have once or twice and he didn’t fall – just got stuffed!)

    Zip

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