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January 14, 2024 at 14:33 #1677340
Easy to be seduced by his breeding and the resultant high expectations, but the way he accelerated away at the end reminded me of his mother.
January 14, 2024 at 14:45 #1677341Reminds me a lot of last seasons Moscow Flyer, the race wasn’t good but the winner was. Needs to hurdle better to win any Cheltenham race mind.
January 14, 2024 at 17:02 #1677362I think his hurdling should improve with a race like this one. They were going too slow for him. A horse of his engine with cover will be on a tight reign and the brain will switch off at a steady pace.
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January 14, 2024 at 17:09 #1677363btw any news on A Dream to Share?
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January 14, 2024 at 18:34 #1677378Mighty Power now favourite
January 14, 2024 at 19:21 #1677382Lydia Hislop said on this week’s Road To Cheltenham that A Dream To Share has had a setback and is very unlikely to be ready for Cheltenham.
January 14, 2024 at 20:30 #1677390The winner of the maiden took just over 3.5 seconds longer carrying 8lb more and recently finished a close second to RTW
I wouldn’t be backing MP for the Supreme at current prices but fair enough if you’re on at 20s or 33s
January 15, 2024 at 09:47 #1677436Took some of the 20s Mirazur West. That’ll shorten if Thursday goes alright.
January 15, 2024 at 10:51 #1677449I was watching some of the Supremes and Champion Hurdles from 2004, 2005 era yesterday…they were the days
Half a dozen big yards on each side of the Irish Sea capable of running a contender or two and watching them compete throughout the seasonThis year’s market is possibly the worst I’ve seen as regards dominant yards
January 15, 2024 at 21:12 #1677503Ile atlantique @26s
Adding in farren glory @15s,
Couldnt be having mystical power either, same way i couldnt be having ballyburn, he won that nicely yesterday, but lets be honest, it was a horrendous race.
January 16, 2024 at 14:43 #1677547Some context on the Moscow Flyer vs the maiden Lisnagar Fortune won, to 4F out they weren’t run too dissimilar, the maiden was 2.5L quicker, so I think the comparison is actually relevant, Jigoro would have beaten Lisnagar Fortune by about 9L in that maiden but he did carry 8lb less than Lisnagar Fortune. James’s Gate and Lombron would have been beaten in the maiden having carried 8lb less than the winner. So on a crude time basis 2 of them wouldn’t have won a maiden on the same card and the other would have done but not by much if you ran them off level weights.
January 17, 2024 at 18:30 #1677675I’ve backed No Flies On Him at 33s. His point win is working out well (collared Jango Baie late on over 2m4f) and his slick style of jumping really impressed me on his hurdles debut. He didn’t win by far but had his ears pricked crossing the line and it will surely work out a good race in time. Although a lesser known trainer these days, Eddie O’Grady has had festival winners before, including in the Supreme and his price will plummet if he wins at the DRF.
January 27, 2024 at 13:39 #1678721JDR has absolutely no chance, that was terrible.
January 27, 2024 at 13:48 #1678723If it was that he didn’t really want to win, it was terrible. If he was just clueless cos he’s never had to battle before and didn’t really know what to do, it will do him the power of good. I can understand why Henderson was so adamant he needed this third run- he would be completely battered in the all out war of a Supreme if he ran like today.
I don’t know which is the most talented novice hurdler – but I think you’d rather have Mystical Power beside you in a bar fight anyway, he’d be tearing into the opposition. Ballyburn would have his head down still throwing punches when everyone had fought themselves to a standstill and the bar was wrecked. JDR would be worrying that he had got blood on his new chinos.January 27, 2024 at 13:48 #1678724He won’t if he hangs like that. However, De Boinville will probably be back on in March and in a championship race where they want crawl round he may run smooth like he did last time. I’m not going to dismiss him knowing what the trainer can do with 2 mile novices.
January 27, 2024 at 14:05 #1678732Taking today’s race in isolation: I thought he did well to win. He looked beaten between the last two flights and his head carriage was not impressive. But somehow he managed to win.
He will need to do much better to win at Cheltenham but perhaps a stronger pace to aim at will help him.
I have not totally given up on him but I am not full of confidence either. He will have to find a fair bit of improvement to win.
January 27, 2024 at 14:05 #1678734Yeah id be dismissing him completely, im hoping everyone stays faithful and backs him into a silly price, be a nice start to cheltenham getting to place lay into that,
FG/potter/MP/BB/IA/FF/NFOH to name a few will all be ahead of him should they run
Hes some trainer, but he’d be needing to get him a 2 minute head start to have any chance
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