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Pendra wants further than two miles, the question is how much further? If he goes to Cheltenham likely to be for the Neptune or one of the handicaps over a similar distance.
Chatterbox needs to find plenty on that Newbury win and Henderson subsequently seemed to all but rule Cheltenham out. Has he had a rethink?
I’m going to have to take a nibble at Moscow Mannon. Might find the Old Course more to his liking than New Course used for the bumper.
And where will Annie Power run ?
The new course has never been used for the bumper. Thu/Fri is New Course, Tue/Weds Old.
Moscow stayed on up the hill, i’d have said he’d be more of a Neptune candidate although he needs to get another run under his belt.
Watched the re-run of the Bumper the other day – Jezki was commented on by RUK as one to take from the race as he breezed through much of the race but was probably a bit weak when push came to shove as a 4yo. The way he skipped clear of the field at Leops was very taking. Something will have to come out of the pack for me to get worried. Un Atout looks a nice prospect, but these French types don’t appeal to me as Supreme winners.
I know the days / courses but for some reason had the Champion Bumper on the Thursday !?! Think this is due to a recent discussion about a Ryanair type hurdle which resulted in discussions about switching the cards around.
The one thing i will say about Un Atout, despite the slow times in Ireland, is that he races prominently so should get a good sight of the hurdles at Cheltenham
Looking forward to seeing Davy talk about him at a preview night – i thought he was excellent last year at the Leopardstown Boylesport discussionsI’m going to have to take a nibble at Moscow Mannon. Might find the Old Course more to his liking than New Course used for the bumper.
And where will Annie Power run ?
The new course has never been used for the bumper. Thu/Fri is New Course, Tue/Weds Old.
Moscow stayed on up the hill, i’d have said he’d be more of a Neptune candidate although he needs to get another run under his belt.
Watched the re-run of the Bumper the other day – Jezki was commented on by RUK as one to take from the race as he breezed through much of the race but was probably a bit weak when push came to shove as a 4yo. The way he skipped clear of the field at Leops was very taking. Something will have to come out of the pack for me to get worried. Un Atout looks a nice prospect, but these French types don’t appeal to me as Supreme winners.
I know the days / courses but for some reason had the Champion Bumper on the Thursday !?! Think this is due to a recent discussion about a Ryanair type hurdle which resulted in discussions about switching the cards around.
The one thing i will say about Un Atout, despite the slow times in Ireland, is that he races prominently so should get a good sight of the hurdles at Cheltenham
Looking forward to seeing Davy talk about him at a preview night – i thought he was excellent last year at the Leopardstown Boylesport discussionsI think they did actually run it on the new course when it was first introduced, maybe 1 or 2 years only though!
That talk of a Ryanair hurdle is all Henderson driven, it ruin the World Hurdle and Champion field sizes and we’d be left with 6-8 runner races. Hope talk is all it is.
I’ve heard Russell is entertaining on these evenings but has had a bit of a reputation of putting punters away, especially in relation to Tiger Cry when he won the Grand Annual!
I posted on the 2012 Supreme Novices thread about the merits of backing horses in this race that have shown quality form in any of the seasons big handicaps such as the Ladbroke or Betfair (former Tote Gold Trophy).
The result was that Darlan had to have an outstanding chance having previously looked sure to be in the shake up in the Newbury handicap off a mark of 146.
This year My Tent Or Yours is currently favourite with a mark of 149, trading at no bigger than 9/2 to win the same event and if he manages to then you can forget Jezki – he’ll be the horse to beat at Cheltenham.
Likewise, Ladbroke winner Cause of Causes who gets in at Newbury off an even higher mark of 152 would take the world of beating if he can win or go close off a mark like that beforehand. He’s best priced at 10s for the Newbury contest but available at 20s for Cheltenham. Note: Also has an entry for the Champion Hurdle.
My concern with the latter is he’s been on the go all season (racking up 12 races in the last 12 months) and probably doesn’t have as much scope for improvement as a horse like My Tent Or Yours. Although you’d have to say his last 2 runs do suggest he’s on an upward curve.
As I’ve already stated, I’m also with Melodic Redezvous – mainly because I like his attitude but the Betfair could yet inevitably have a seriously large outcome on this race.
Lee
Russell is good entertainment value alright, as seen here with Ruby:
This year My Tent Or Yours is currently favourite with a mark of 149, trading at no bigger than 9/2 to win the same event and if he manages to then you can forget Jezki – he’ll be the horse to beat at Cheltenham.
Two big concerns for me – does he need to win on the bridle and if he was so good why would you shell out big money for the favourite?
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The new course has never been used for the bumper. Thu/Fri is New Course, Tue/Weds Old.
Moscow stayed on up the hill, i’d have said he’d be more of a Neptune candidate although he needs to get another run under his belt.
Watched the re-run of the Bumper the other day – Jezki was commented on by RUK as one to take from the race as he breezed through much of the race but was probably a bit weak when push came to shove as a 4yo. The way he skipped clear of the field at Leops was very taking. Something will have to come out of the pack for me to get worried. Un Atout looks a nice prospect, but these French types don’t appeal to me as Supreme winners.
I know the days / courses but for some reason had the Champion Bumper on the Thursday !?! Think this is due to a recent discussion about a Ryanair type hurdle which resulted in discussions about switching the cards around.
The one thing i will say about Un Atout, despite the slow times in Ireland, is that he races prominently so should get a good sight of the hurdles at Cheltenham
Looking forward to seeing Davy talk about him at a preview night – i thought he was excellent last year at the Leopardstown Boylesport discussionsI think they did actually run it on the new course when it was first introduced, maybe 1 or 2 years only though!
That talk of a Ryanair hurdle is all Henderson driven, it ruin the World Hurdle and Champion field sizes and we’d be left with 6-8 runner races. Hope talk is all it is.
I’ve heard Russell is entertaining on these evenings but has had a bit of a reputation of putting punters away, especially in relation to Tiger Cry when he won the Grand Annual!
Continually disagree about the Ryanair Hurdle. There are plenty of 2 1/2 mile hurdlers around. There’s a 2 1/2 mile novice race. There are 2 1/2 mile hurdle races during the season. Then nothing at the festival for older horses.
But we have a Mares race ?
Ridiculous.
The Ryanair Chase has been one of the better chases for the last few years.
I won’t begrudge Davy for that – they don’t have to tell us everything
And Tiger Cry hadn’t won a race in three years but had finished 2nd in two previous runs at the course, including the Grand Annual two years before.
This year My Tent Or Yours is currently favourite with a mark of 149, trading at no bigger than 9/2 to win the same event and if he manages to then you can forget Jezki – he’ll be the horse to beat at Cheltenham.
Two big concerns for me – does he need to win on the bridle and if he was so good why would you shell out big money for the favourite?
I wouldn’t be overly confident as it’s clearly a tricky race but you could argue against those concerns with ;
a) He found enough when let down aganst Taquin Du Seuil (although the runner-up possibly needs further)
b) JP seems to be hoovering up a number of young hurdlers so I wouldn’t read too much into that.
Personally I think it was the ground that beat him at Newbury and his high cruising speed will stand him in good stead in races like the Betfair & Supreme.
Whether he can win or not is obviously up for debate but I simply cannot see him not being there on the bridle as they hit the hill – how much he’ll find is anybodys guess at this stage, which is why the Betfair could be so informative.
Lee
Whether he can win or not is obviously up for debate but I simply cannot see him not being there on the bridle as they hit the hill – how much he’ll find is anybodys guess at this stage, which is why the Betfair could be so informative.
I couldn’t agree on this even more. Nothing is certain, at the end of the day, it’s all about calculated luck I guess.
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Do you guys think River Maigue is well held on form by Dodging Bullets after their recent run or does Maigue have enough scope to improve past him come the Supreme Novices? I’m thinking the latter.
Well held is possibly a bit extreme as with less runs over hurdles you could expect River Maigue to have more improvement in him than Dodging Bullets but the latter was clearly more inconvenienced by the way the race panned out and having been effectively forced to make all, he did well to land the spoils – especially when considering he gave the runner-up 7 lb.
The third horse home that day let the form down next time out though so I wouldn’t rate the race that highly.
The reason I’d be prepared to give the Nicholls horse a chance at Cheltenham is mainly based on him having won depsite the run of the race whereas I think Henderson’s is far too short in the betting even allowing for his subsequent win.
Lee
Rule the World anyone? looks like a nice prospect
Very true Ben he looks a very nice horse. He wants more of a trip though so won’t run in this.
Rule the World anyone? looks like a nice prospect
Very true Ben he looks a very nice horse. He wants more of a trip though so won’t run in this.
Nice thanks for the heads up, hopefully they’ll throw him in something further then with reasonable odds
there is a lot of talk about jessica harringtons horse but the forgotten horse is pique sous as big as 25/1 last year in the bumper gave that horse a 10 length beating and given it 8 pounds. One is 5/1 and the other (pique) is 25/1, hasnt been out because they want better ground…this is my dark horse at a big price!!1
there is a lot of talk about jessica harringtons horse but the forgotten horse is pique sous as big as 25/1 last year in the bumper gave that horse a 10 length beating and given it 8 pounds. One is 5/1 and the other (pique) is 25/1, hasnt been out because they want better ground…this is my dark horse at a big price!!1
http://www1.skysports.com/horse-racing/ … Pique-Sous
You don’t write for Sky Sports do you Mike?
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