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Champion Hurdle winner Sublimity could be given an intriguing entry in the totesport Ebor at York, according to handler John Carr.
The County Meath trainer initially mooted the Scottish Champion Hurdle as a potential next port of call but that plan has now been shelved. Current options are the ACC Bank Champion Hurdle at Punchestown or a return to racing on the Flat, a sphere in which he has twice won at Listed level.
"We could even put him away and aim him at the Ebor at York, or maybe not run him at all. We are going to make a positive decision in the next fortnight and whatever we decide we will stick to that," Carr told At The Races.
"I’ve a lot of ideas in my head about where to take him next but Liverpool is definitely out. I will enter him for Punchestown and I’ll also enter him for the Listed Alleged Stakes he won at the Curragh two years ago on the Flat.
"He needs to be fresh and the longest hurdle race away is Punchestown – that’s why he’s not going to Aintree. Even though the race (at Cheltenham) took nothing out of him, the travelling did."
Detroit City, Fair Along and Now Sublimity! Whats going on with the world?
I’d be running him over hurdles if I owned him..
But, what do we think a listed winning champion hurdler would make at stud? I have no idea to be honest, probably not that much, but a dual winner with more black type would be worth a few bob..
Quote: from Aragorn on 5:33 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]I’d be running him over hurdles if I owned him..
But, what do we think a listed winning champion hurdler would make at stud? I have no idea to be honest, probably not that much, but a dual winner with more black type would be worth a few bob..
Sweet FA without his knackers.
"He needs to be Fresh".
So why are they considering a flat campaign for him when he’s the Champion Hurdler?
Let him do what he does best.
Quote: from Flash on 5:41 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]"He needs to be Fresh".
So why are they considering a flat campaign for him when he’s the Champion Hurdler?
Let him do what he does best.
I agree. If he’s not going to Punchestown, rough him off for the season, and come back next term to try and cement his place as the best 2m hurdler there is.
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Quote: from Aragorn on 5:33 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]I’d be running him over hurdles if I owned him..
But, what do we think a listed winning champion hurdler would make at stud? I have no idea to be honest, probably not that much, but a dual winner with more black type would be worth a few bob..
Sweet FA without his knackers.<br>
He has a set DJ, keep up..
Racing Post and Irish form book report Sublimity as a 7-y-o gelding. Where does your information that contradicts this come from?
He is a gelding, most Selkirks need that to be any good.
Think they are just tossing a few ideas up in the air, be amazed if he ran in the Ebor of 106, doubtful he would get the trip. A group race over 10fs is worth a try but I’d think the Bula would be the target next December.
Perhaps they are just keen to run him because they like a challenge and enjoy the thrill of giving it a go? Just like thos e jolly Ballydoyle chaps with Holy Roman emperor :)
and would you like to own a horse that is aimed at one race a year?
i think its great news and good luck to them
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He was definitely called as an entire on CH 4 last week. ‘First entire to win the Champion Hurdle since Alderbrook’ was the quote.
He has lots of ability on the flat and no reason why he can’t be given a dual purpose campaign
The horse is a gelding, and was reported in error.
Little chance of him lining up in the Ebor (likely fast ground) and no chance of staying the trip.
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Quote: from yeats on 6:07 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]He is a gelding, most Selkirks need that to be any good.<br>
Which isn’t so surprsing, considering his father was nearly one himself.:biggrin:
With the ground being as bad as it was between Oct-Feb I can fully understand why connections might want to go down the flat route, then give him a break, and bring him back for next years champ hdle. It makes a lot of sense if your horse doesnt act in a bog.
Quote: from davidjohnson on 6:06 pm on Mar. 19, 2007[br]Racing Post and Irish form book report Sublimity as a 7-y-o gelding. Where does your information that contradicts this come from?<br>
I’m glad channel 4 do their research… W@nkers!!! ;)
he is obviously a good horse, but HE and BI went to fast and were slowing down, look at the sectional times, which made sublimity look as if he was quickening better than he actually did. <br>Good performance at cheltenham, but i feel he may be next years newmill!<br>plus he wont get the trip in the ebor even if he does run so dont back him!
That’s it Aragorn, blame someone else!:biggrin: Seriously I think the problem stems from horses that when they were last trained in Britain may have been entires, were sold, taken abroad and gelded then the information is not necessarily relaid to Weatherbys. Therefore when the horse next runs in Britain, it is still registered as an entire – as it was the last time it ran in UK. Happens a hell of a lot with the Irish jumpers.
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