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    Lassaut @ 25/1

    The French have been a bit quiet in recent years in the big European races, but no surprise this year to see a few top notchers step out of the shadows in the coming weeks.

    A bit of a longshot to turn up nevermind win but planning on following him this year wherever he runs and don’t envisage seeing 25/1 next to his name very often. :yes:

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    Coroebus heads the confirmations as expected.

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    I’m not necessarily saying Coroebus will get beat, but I do find it interesting 12 are taking him on.

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    Several talented horses in there

    But there is a very realistic possibility that coroebus improves a few lbs on his guineas run

    Buick will have to time it right though, he won’t want to be hitting the front too soon on a known idler at a track like ascot

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    Coroebus has an OR of 121 and I consider that mark fully merited as I have him on the same number myself.

    It gives him at least 6lb (three lengths) in hand of his rivals.

    The least flattering interpretation of his form is to allege he only won the 2,000 Guineas because he was better drawn than Native Trail, who then made inordinately heavy weather of winning the Irish 2,000 Guineas against a weak field.

    But the other way to look at it is to say Coroebus’s Newmarket Classic form was franked at The Curragh, he’s well clear on the numbers, he’s only having the fifth race of his life on Tuesday and is open to further improvement.

    I don’t see what beats him tbh, but the only races I ever bet each-way on are “thieving” races – with an odds-on favourite, three places and not too many runners – and if anyone thought My Prospero, the Heron Stakes winner on fast ground, couldn’t be out of the first three, I couldn’t put them off that as an each-way thieving bet.

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    Mighty Ulysses may have been only second in a handicap last time out off a mark of 101, but the Silver Bowl is working out remarkably well. Third horse Outgate was getting 3 lbs from MU and beaten 5 1/2 lengths, has since won a good Chester handicap off the same mark and with a bit more in hand than the winning distance of 1 1/2 lengths suggests. Fourth horse Oh Herberts Reign was getting 4 lbs from MU and beaten 7 3/4 lengths; yet was only beaten 1 1/2 off just a 1 lb lower mark in an Epsom Handicap.

    Gosden stable is firing in the winners left, right and centre; Mighty Ulysses is improving fast and imo looks a good ew bet @ around 16/1.

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    That’s a strong case GT makes there IMO.

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    Mighty Ulysses and Maljoom the pair for each-way thieves, I’ve decided.

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    Mighty Ulysses

    VF x

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    Got a win bet at average odds of 17.8/1 Mighty Ulysees, with (biggest bet) each way Mighty Ulysees @ 16/1 and smaller Maljoom ew @ 13/1. :good:

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    Couldn’t put you off the place part of the bet on either of them – the odds on offer place only at Betfair Exchange tell their own story.

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    Coroebus will win comfortably imo. Buick will start quick and get a handy enough position i think so he don’t get boxed in. That’s what i would do anyway ;o)

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    Taking a chance here with Berkshire Shadow.

    Give him a definite chance of making the frame on his 2000 Guineas run, and won well here last year on Good to Firm.

    Hard to see him winning, but think he should easily outrun his odds

    Berkshire Shadow 28’s EW 4pls

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    Angel Bleu EW 40/1

    That 4 places is a right old tempter. Take out the FAV and this looks wide open, so for one that has won 2 G1’s he just looks quite a big price.

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    New Energy was impressive behind native trail hopefully they will have watered well as he has suffered from sore shins.( If he runs)
    Billy Lee his excellent jockey in his last race doesn’t ride.
    Maljoom An impressive winner of the German 2000 guineas, is unbeaten and on last year’s race data is well drawn as is his stablemate my prospero.
    Corebus is high on most lists, but perhaps he has been trained mainly with may races in mind and may be seen to better effect later in the season in Ireland, back at Newmarket and in France….
    Wexford native also brings good form and a recent stable win in this race should see him run well.
    I hope that Willie Haggas’ German 2000 guineas winner wins this race. He would a poignant winner for his Father in law.

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    When it comes to place bets I agree this is wide open.
    However, we have an odds-on fav who’s a fair way clear on form and even if he doesn’t win the chances are something is going to improve into at or near the normal level of SJP winner… And imo on this ground there are only three others – My Prospero, Majloom and Mighty Ulysees – who have much chance of doing so. For the win part of an each way bet I don’t think this is that open.

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    Sided with Angel Bleu each way 4 places at 40/1

    Little surprised he’s running on this ground but even on this ground that seems too big as he’s the second highest rated horse in the race

    Hopefully he isn’t as fresh as he was on reappearance, looking for him to be held up and running on like he was in the criterium international at Saint cloud

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