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- June 20, 2020 at 09:59 #1491429
I want Pinatubo to win so much, but I will bet Palace Pier at 4-1.
June 20, 2020 at 10:08 #1491432I’ve talked myself into Palace Pier 9-2 ew. With what Gosden has done with Lord North and Fanny Logan this week Ive decided to throw my dart his way.
June 20, 2020 at 11:25 #1491455two of the non guineas runners will do me
Palace pier who I backed as soon as entries came through at 11/2 and have just had a bit on Threat
Really think pinatubo and Wichita had hard races and are worth taking on
June 20, 2020 at 14:56 #1491508Agree the guineas was tough and I have joined those of you on Palace Pier
June 20, 2020 at 15:05 #1491509Great finish. I wonder if there had been an extra week after the guineas what the result would have been like. Palace Pier has a great big stride though.
June 20, 2020 at 15:08 #1491510I picked the right one. Wd winners. Weaver making excuses for Pinatubo dunno why – he came through to win his race but couldn’t. Wichita making the running was strange ended up a sitting duck.
June 20, 2020 at 15:29 #1491514Dirty tactics from O’Brien horse Royal Donroch who was constantly bumping into Threat.
June 20, 2020 at 15:33 #1491515Utter nonsense from Weaver saying Buick should have held on to him for longer and in fact followed Dettori and do him for speed later in the straight.
The best horse won on the day (drawing away at the finish) and he is only going to improve for racing and whilst Pinatubo has run very well again in defeat, I think this is simply more proof that his contemporaries have (developement wise) caught up and even surpassed him from 2 to 3.
I do think a stiff mile is probably right on the upper limit stamina wise and whilst they have muted the Sussex Stakes as a next target I don’t think he would look out of place in a July Cup over that stiff 6F uphill finish on the July course and/or the Maurice de Gheest over 6.5F and the Foret over 7F as it may well be that 7F is his optimal trip.June 20, 2020 at 15:46 #1491517Palace Pier looks very very good. I know people have said Derby, Leger etc…..i don’t get it at all.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!June 20, 2020 at 21:57 #1491525Poor little Royal Doorknob didn’t look happy at all. I feel sorry for those sacrificial domestique horses getting mucked about with…must be so confusung when they had been originally been trained to race.
June 20, 2020 at 22:06 #1491527He won it snugly in the end, frankie only gave him a couple of taps with the stick so must’ve been confident he had plenty of horse under him
Agree about the derby and leger Jack, how any bookie can put a horse sired by kingman in as fav for the leger is beyond me
I’d think 10f would be his absolute max
Prix jaques le marois is his next main aim apparently
June 21, 2020 at 11:28 #1491564LD73 I agree with you about the idea of dropping back in trip. Paul Kealy made a comment in the paper about Pinatubo after the race saying “He’s got a better chance of staying ten furlongs than people think.” That’s just a bit crazy to me.
June 21, 2020 at 15:13 #1491581Just going off the ATR sectionals for the SJP against the Coronation Stakes, hadn’t seen this mentioned yet but Alpine Star actually ran a quicker time than Palace Pier carrying the same weight which is significant as she’d be getting 3lbs racing against the boys. They crawled through the SJP relative to the Coronation Stakes – Palace Pier has covered the final 2F in 23.39 compared to 25.75 for Alpine Star and yet she has still clocked the quicker time.
The notion that Pinatubo doesn’t stay a mile is nonsense he’s been placed now in two Group 1’s over a mile, one very strongly run and one which turned into a relative sprint so to me he isn’t short on either front but has bumped into two very good horses in Palace Pier and Kameko and he clearly doesn’t hold the same dominance he did at 2. That said I think we’ll see Wichita again in a better light when he’s not asked to make his own running and on quicker ground. It looks a good division and that’s before we factor in Siskin, any decisions about Pinatubo trip wise might be more down to finding opportunities for him to win Group 1’s than what is necessarily his best trip and after what Lord North did this week and it being the trip I suspect Kameko will end up best over 10F looks like a no go so he may end up over 6/7F before too long as that is undoubtedly a weaker group of horses.
June 21, 2020 at 17:16 #1491589They seemed to go very slow at the start in the st james palace
Was very muddling, so you can mark up palace pier even more for being held up in a slow run race
June 22, 2020 at 12:54 #1491616I think Weaver was spot on about the ride on Pinatubo, makes a change for a pundit to be critical of a jockey. He travelled like the best horse and the race came soon enough after a tough one in the Guineas. The only place I would be looking to run him in next would be the Sussex.
I’m sure they’ll get the tactics right next time.
Paul Kealy is madasahatter.June 25, 2020 at 00:35 #1491790Cant see how it’s the jockeys fault
The horse travelled well but found nothing, he didnt show that kick to put the race to bed he had as a 2yo here or in the guineas
Best horse won for me and it was a tad cosy too even in a slowly run race that wouldve suited pinatubo
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