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- June 8, 2020 at 18:38 #1490197
If Arizona had an off day last time out then he looks interesting at 14s but maybe it’s just that distance doesn’t suit him and he’d go for commonwealth cup?
June 8, 2020 at 19:39 #1490201He’s blue on oddschecker for the CC at the moment . I can’t see him going for this unless there was something wrong with him last time
June 8, 2020 at 20:17 #1490220Would like to see palace pier run here
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Think it could be hard for pinatubo and Wichita to run again so soon after that gruelling guineas
June 9, 2020 at 08:51 #1490243I was expecting something a little more enthusiastic about Palace Pier for Ascot but it would appear they might take their time with him. I think they are trying to work out what distance he should run next. I liked his run but he did get going late. Greeness still? Could be, but could also means he needs 10f already. I was hoping to do a bit of Without Parole with him but he’s very short already on what he’s done. Colossus has me down as finishing Pinatubos career! Just for the record I actually just said it’s possible he might never win a group 1 again. Arazi didn’t.
However it’s not something I’m wishing at all Colossus!
That said anyone going in on either him or Wichita at those odds with such a quick turn around that’s never been done before is asking for trouble.
I just wonder you know, has Richard Hannon played a blinder here?
The fresher horse is going to take some stopping here potentially….
Not had a big look at trends yet but just based on that scenario being entirely possible I’ve backed him at 10s before it all goes. A turning track might get the best of him stamina wise with his breeding
Threat 10/1
June 9, 2020 at 08:59 #1490244Agree with Frenchy regard Threat.
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June 11, 2020 at 15:31 #1490381a bit of blue for arizona here today frenchy, PP cut to 8s maybe they’ve inside info
June 11, 2020 at 21:09 #1490386Ah balls hope not. He’s out to 14s and 12s on sky bet and WH though, maybe it’s PP trying to sucker people in. He’s blue all over for the CC and into 14/1 on the exchanges. I can’t find word anywhere or any rumour as to where he’s going annoyingly
June 18, 2020 at 09:15 #1491182What an exciting renewal this is now! I cannot wait for this one! So happy Palace Pier is coming here now, it really makes the race.
I have a question for the forum here. Be interesting to hear everyone’s views on this.
Ryan Moore had the pick of the two horses in the 2000 Guineas, and AOB is on record saying he can leave that as late as he wants. He picks Arizona after deserting him twice last season. I get the old adage about AOB second strings, but Ryan Moore is one, if not the best jockey in the world, he knows what he’s doing and most importantly that gamble on Wichita for the Guineas, must have started within Coolmore and Ballydole. Even as the gamble grew, Arizona became very weak, in fact was going weak from about midweek, when Ryan had chosen to ride him.
What happened there? How would Ryan not know that Wichita was the best horse if everyone knew in the camp?
Also, is it possible that Wichita suddenly came into himself in the days leading upto Newmarket, I guess it’s possible they were both good and Arizona suddenly went quiet the day or two before?
It is one possibility that they were both very good and Arizona just ran too bad to be true, but Ryan has switched again for this now and rides Wichita.
Very confused here…..
June 18, 2020 at 09:37 #1491189It is one possibility that they were both very good and Arizona just ran too bad to be true, but Ryan has switched again for this now and rides Wichita.
This is possible.
I personally think Wichita’s run was down to the ground at the end of last season + it’s worth remembering who he chose that day.
The earlier vibes were all about Arizona which i agree were strange, but i wouldn’t say it was certain to be a yard gamble Frenchy- as we both said he was pretty big at around 20-1 if his last run was forgiven. After all he was only beaten 4.75l that day anyway! It’s possible Arizona being a big horse was expected to have progressed a lot from 2 to 3 and just either hasn’t, or badly needed the run.
Hard to be sure of course! I did half look at Arizona for this and go “surely not” lol. He could surprise a few.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!June 18, 2020 at 22:32 #1491223This ground will be against both Wichita and pinatubo surely
Really brings palace pier into play if he can step up
June 18, 2020 at 23:14 #1491241PALACE PIER banker
June 20, 2020 at 07:35 #1491406I’ve also added Palace Pier to Threat. Will go against the Guineas horses as I think this could be too soon, especially at the prices. Anything but a banker though! Cracking race!
Threat 10/1
Palace Pier 4/1June 20, 2020 at 07:35 #1491407I would laugh my head off if Arizona wins and Ryan picked wrong again however
June 20, 2020 at 08:18 #1491411Dont know how anyone can back pinatubo based on the last run, he might well go and bolt up but ill let him do it after that, not that it was a bad run, wichita should confirm the form but there both to close in the betting for me, wichita out of the two, couldnt have palace pier,Not at that price, his form does not match the price,more likely to end up in the leger…
Threat could run a nice race based on hos 7f runs last season and hes a nice price but ill take a flyer on positive @22/1 If the ground dries right out before the race and its a sound Or near sound surface he might spring a surprise through his solario run, the dewhurst run was surely the ground and hes much the forgotten one in here, cox had golden horde primed FTO so i see no excuse on fitness today, worth a punt at the price imo
Anyone confirm the local forecast?
June 20, 2020 at 09:07 #1491418Threat 12/1
will canter all over them, whether he has enough of a kick at the end I’m not so sure but worth a pop at the priceGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
June 20, 2020 at 09:29 #1491423The ground has come right for Wichita. If this race was yesterday I think Pinatubo would have won. Don’t think Pinatubo should be favourite now but I expect will still run well. Wichita ran 4 races in 7 weeks so seems a hardy type so less worried about the quick turnaround than some. Palace Pier is a big danger, I backed him 16/20s for the Guineas in the Autumn but he didn’t go. Could turn out to be a good move if he takes this. Wichita and Palace difficult to split for me, maybe Palace will edge it who knows.
June 20, 2020 at 09:30 #1491424The ground has come right for Wichita. If this race was yesterday I think Pinatubo would have won. Don’t think Pinatubo should be favourite now but I expect will still run well. Wichita ran 4 races in 7 weeks so seems a hardy type so less worried about the quick turnaround than some. Palace Pier is a big danger, I backed him 16/20s for the Guineas in the Autumn but he didn’t go. Could turn out to be a good move if he takes this. Wichita and Palace difficult to split for me, maybe Palace will edge it who knows.
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