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Well said Tank.
People often exaggerate to make a point and/or taken out of context by others.
A lot of races were lost by the whip in Mr Shoemaker’s native USA at the time he said that. Where there were very few whip rules – if any… Getting horses unbalanced. Many using it with what would be understood now as extreme force, excessive frequency and/or in the wrong place… And their whip was nothing like as cushioned as our Racing whips are today.These days some races are still lost by the whip, but many many more would be lost without it.
Value Is EverythingI think that Stan Mellor held similar views to Shoemaker regarding the whip. Then again, I think I may be going off the topic of this thread.
Ginge- TTL has as much chance of winning the arkle as i would if sitting on the back of my dachshund in it
Ginge, Ham on the back of his dachshund is only a 33/1 chance. You should see his dachshund
Not sure Lester Piggott would agree – he won a lot of races riding finishes that would horrify many nowadays.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Give Nico De Boinville a call, he just highlighted his claims in the 1.25 Warwick! I’d have Skelton all day long!
Surely no one doubts Skelton being champion trainer in the very near future , if he,s going to get there then he,s going to have to be winning grade 1 Inc at the festival , I’ve no doubt this year’s stable is the most talented he,s ever had and I’ll be surprised he doesnt win one of the big ones , TTL has to improve to win a Arkle ….he can , as for Shah blue he was going to win the Charlie Hall by half a circuit , we don’t know how good this horses can be , I certainly wouldn’t be saying they can’t win at this point
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Everything has a price ginge you know this never said id lay at that, but ill happily lay you current prices, slightly better for the sake of it to take your free money …
Me and boaby the dachshund are ready to take him on in march anyway..
And skelton never did anything wrong there, horse just wasnt good enough, neither was nube
‘Who’s gonna be the new stable jockey?’
Has to be Bridgit doesn’t it Ruby
Cool as a cucumber over the last two fences on Protektorat…a class act. Well done Bridgit Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...‘Who’s gonna be the new stable jockey?’
Has to be Bridget doesn’t it Ruby
Cool as a cucumber over the last two fences on Protektorat…a class act. Well done Bridget Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...He,s a very good horse on his day , I love Empire Steel so it gives him a great line of form going forward
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Jac, I don’t if it would be a wise move to give more horses to his grilfriend. that wouldn’t be good for anyone.
But he is only a Monday – Thursday jockey. Rides places like market Rasen or Southwell very well. And he has the odd good ride in a big-race. Mostly when you don’t expect him to do so.
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