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  • #15989
    stilvi
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    Enjoyed the Channel 4 interviews. Don’t agree with his bullfighting and field sport views but I don’t think there is a better storyteller in racing.

    I know he has backing of a few powerful owner/breeders (Rausing/Cheveley Park) but it seems surprising to me that some of the Arab owners don’t a send a few in his direction. Nearly every season he seems to hibernate for the first couple of months and then a ton of winners follow. There appears nothing to suggest that he couldn’t handle a better class of animal.

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    He’s shown in the past with the likes of Alborada that he can handle very top class horses. He seems to take great pleasure from his occupation.

    Here’s a nice article from a year or two ago –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing/article-426684/Sir-Mark-Prescott-A-life-ordinary.html

    #313488
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    Yes indeed: Alborada was a typical, late-maturing filly out of whom Sir Mark got spectacular improvement by not over-facing her too soon. He’s a fine trainer, who races his horses with almost uncanny perception much of the time, and relishes their individual qualities just as delightedly as he appreciates a good single malt.

    And the secret’s the same: long maturation before letting them loose on the world.

    #313519
    Warming Trends
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    Undoubtedly my favourite trainer and indeed my favourite character in racing full stop. Not only do I share his interests in country pursuits such as coursing and fighting cocks , but he has always had a remarkable attitude towards racehorses and racing in general. In 1995 I was told "this will win" and so it did at 10/1 ….a couple of days later "it’s kicking the stable door down it’ll go in again today , and so it did 7/2 into 11/4 ….and finally , ten days after that first victory "absolutely can’t be beat today" , 9/4 into 7/4 and won by 8 lengths. That’s why I had so much money to put on lammtarra In the arc, that was the ten days that changed my gambling career ; I’ve loved horses , Istabraq , One Man , Kauto ..Lammtarra himself … But my favourite horse of all time will ALWAYS be Warming Trends.

    #314511
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    Don’t be surprised Sir Mark has no Arab owners. By the sound of it he’s not that interested in attracting big owners simply for the sake of it. He only has 50 boxes and 70 odd horses on his books at any one time. That’s a number he seems more than happy with.

    Sir Mark made it quite clear he likes training for his friends. Perhaps he has no friends from the Gulf States? I’m sure Prescott turns away dozens of disappointed applicants for an empty box every year.

    I know it sounds rather self serving but the only Racing For Change that I need is to hear from the likes of Sir Mark on TV a lot more often. His story about the road sick apprentice was a classic. :lol:

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    He has had a few horses that were Arab owned – the best of them being Wizard King in the 90’s, owned by Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed (pale green, white halved sleeves). His record as an owner stops at the end of the 90’s.

    Prince Fahd Salman (all dark green) also had a few horses with Prescott up to the time of his death, although never as many as he had with Cole and Cecil.

    And Faisal Salman (dark green, yellow hoop) has been a regular with the stable until the last two seasons – his best horse with Prescott was Last Second, who won the Nassau and Sun Chariot. It’s probably significant that Last Second was bred by another of his main patrons to this day, Kirsten Rausing.

    Perhaps, like one or two other trainers I could name, he wouldn’t mind the Arab owners, but isn’t so keen on the English racing managers that go with them.

    AP

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    You kind of get the feeling that there would be only one ‘manager’ of the horses in the Prescott yard, and probably rightly so.

    #314568
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    Undoubtedly my favourite trainer and indeed my favourite character in racing full stop. Not only do I share his interests in country pursuits such as coursing and fighting cocks…

    ..oh God I think I’m going to be sick..

    ..this is so 18th Century…
    ..and I think it should stay there.

    #314571
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    UM are we really that better off in the 21st Century with amusements like Big Brother, Katie Price and Jedward? Pass me the sick bucket after you’re done love. :oops: :lol:

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    Undoubtedly my favourite trainer and indeed my favourite character in racing full stop. Not only do I share his interests in country pursuits such as coursing and fighting cocks , but he has always had a remarkable attitude towards racehorses and racing in general. In 1995 I was told "this will win" and so it did at 10/1 ….a couple of days later "it’s kicking the stable door down it’ll go in again today , and so it did 7/2 into 11/4 ….and finally , ten days after that first victory "absolutely can’t be beat today" , 9/4 into 7/4 and won by 8 lengths. That’s why I had so much money to put on lammtarra In the arc, that was the ten days that changed my gambling career ; I’ve loved horses , Istabraq , One Man , Kauto ..Lammtarra himself … But my favourite horse of all time will ALWAYS be Warming Trends.

    Disgusting aftertiming, was nearly sick, go and have a word with yourself ffs

    #314609
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    UM are we really that better off in the 21st Century with amusements like Big Brother, Katie Price and Jedward? Pass me the sick bucket after you’re done love. :oops: :lol:

    ..better off? is that in doubt here?
    harmless in comparison and at least has a measure of humour :)

    I have this image going, of someone getting up in the morning, enjoying a hearty breakfast of hopefully ethically reared and slaughtered pork products and free range eggs, then to say to themselves ”I must go and see two chickens scratch their eyes out today”.

    These are just the sort of people we need and I think Racing for Change should make this top of their agenda to pull the crowds in.

    One of Mr Prescott’s better placings was Confidential Lady in the Prix de Diane a few years ago and having Seb Sanders at his peak.

    Other than that, I doubt he and I would care to tango.

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    Thought you’d all like to know that the aftertiming on this thread has achieved a certain notoriety in another place…

    #314668
    Warming Trends
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    …….disgusting? Aftertiming ….. Have I breached some unwritten rule of etiquette bigbucks ? I assumed aftertiming was claiming to have backed a horse after it ran , without having posted before it ran. when they are fifteen year old nurseries won by a horse I douBt anyone can remember , its just reminiscence . The fact that warming trends ( who never won another race ) is my chosen user name MIGHT lead you to think that the story is true. If it is not the done thing to talk about gambles landed in years gone by , then I will certainly refrain from doing so again. Disgusting is a bit strong I feel. In danger of adding ‘off topicing’ to my list of crimes I might add that as this country produces 20million egg laying pullets a year ( 40% of which are free range ) the same number of day old cockerels are gassed.

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    ..better off? is that in doubt here?
    harmless in comparison and at least has a measure of humour

    You seem so certain about the value of your chosen PC path UM. So the world is a better place now that it’s full of wannabes and the delusional? Interesting perspective. Harmless though? I doubt it. They are all participating in the senseless media whore circus without a good grip on reality. There is nothing funny about folks falling over themselves to grab our attention. There’s nothing funny about kids idolising the inane and the worthless. It’s all just sad and pathetic especially when a child aspires to "be like them". The one thing lacking from reality TV is a good dose of hard core reality. Sir Mark has more good humour in his last discarded cigar butt.

    Perhaps the world would be better off with a little more "each to their own" rather than this persistent "my way is better" inanity of the mostly self appointed and self annointed politically correct. I’m not saying that the ways of the Sir Mark’s of this world are right. I am saying that the ways of the oft deluded politically correct are just as right and wrong.

    Now shall we discuss Sir Mark’s passion for Boxing and Bullfighting?

    Have I gone off topic enough? Opps I nearly forgot the aftertiming. I DIDN’T back Hooray at York and am still cheesed off!!! :lol:

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    ..better off? is that in doubt here?
    harmless in comparison and at least has a measure of humour

    You seem so certain about the value of your chosen PC path UM. So the world is a better place now that it’s full of wannabes and the delusional? Interesting perspective. Harmless though? I doubt it. They are all participating in the senseless media whore circus without a good grip on reality. There is nothing funny about folks falling over themselves to grab our attention. There’s nothing funny about kids idolising the inane and the worthless. It’s all just sad and pathetic especially when a child aspires to "be like them". The one thing lacking from reality TV is a good dose of hard core reality. Sir Mark has more good humour in his last discarded cigar butt.

    Perhaps the world would be better off with a little more "each to their own" rather than this persistent "my way is better" inanity of the mostly self appointed and self annointed politically correct. I’m not saying that the ways of the Sir Mark’s of this world are right. I am saying that the ways of the oft deluded politically correct are just as right and wrong.

    Now shall we discuss Sir Mark’s passion for Boxing and Bullfighting?

    Have I gone off topic enough? Opps I nearly forgot the aftertiming. I DIDN’T back Hooray at York and am still cheesed off!!! :lol:

    UM was only expressing an opinion. Saw no "my way is better". Think you are the one "self appointed and self annointed… oft deluded" Chiswickian.

    I am in favour of some "country pursuits", fox hunting an example; but why anyone would defend cock fighting seems strange in the extreme. To compare stupid TV programmes with this type of thing is in itself……

    "Each to their own". May be we should go back to the days when people were free to broadcast racist views too. Thankfully in this century racism has become rare.

    These days we only have the non-PC religions to thank for hatred and wars, Christian, Jewish and Muslim.

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    #314748
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    Not only do I share his interests in country pursuits such as coursing and fighting cocks ,

    Horse cruelty makes my blood boil ,

    Different strokes for different folks…you just draw some funny lines! :shock:

    #314782
    Warming Trends
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    Yes zenjah , life is all about where you draw the line I suppose . Running a horse you know to be lame makes my blood boil ,whereas watching hound and hare hit top speed takes my breath away. The hound is fast because it’s a predator , the hare is fast because it’s prey. I understand that my views on poultry are the opposite of those of the masses- when I see 6000 chickens in a broiler house feeding whilst sat in their own excrement ready for slaughter at the ripe old age of 45 DAYS , supermarket chicken , I despair . When I see two birds who have lived the life of Riley for 18 months and have a driven instinct to overcome adversity and fight to the death , kill or be killed , I am filled with wonder. Anyway , that Sir Mark Prescott is a canny trainer don’t you think , how far does anyone think HOORAY will get next year ? Which of his 2yos look like being interesting 3yos ?

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