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If I accidentally unmute Gareth Topham and David Fitzgerald are the duo I find the least annoying to catch the tones of briefly before muting again.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’ll leave that to the judge!
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysThey all have mares at some point, which I believe is inevitable with the sheer number of commentaries they do and like with most things to me it is more a case of who makes the least amount of mistakes and Holt tends to be the one who stands out.
Back in the day I always liked GG as he would often throw in some ad libs with his commentaries and here are a few that come to mind:
“Desert Orchid has yet to be asked for his effort, I should imagine he’s probably thinking to himself…well I’ve got to go round again Simon…..what’s going on here”
“Dancing Brave is on the extreme left, starting to motor but oh so much to do, one and half in which to do it”
“In The Groove is cruising in behind them, hard on the steel”
“And Reference Point just had to swerve to avoid that bit of newspaper”
“But don’t forget from here on in Reference Point is into unknown territory, he’s never been this far on a racecourse before”“It’s Rainbow Quest and Pat Eddery looks cheekily across….(ha ha ha) at Rae Guest, they must be having a chat”
Couldn’t stand Graham Goode (infuriatingly smartarse smug IMO) which just goes to show that the merit or otherwise of commentators, like food, really is a matter of personal taste.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"ITV actually courted Julian Wilson for the No.1 commentator position (to start in 1981) but Wilson chose to stay with the BBC on the mistaken belief O’Sullevan was retiring (he was only retiring from his Daily Express journalist role) so Goode got the gig.
Then coincidentally Richard Hoiles was ITV’s second choice when the channel returned to racing as John Hunt chose to stick with the BBC.
I actually thought Goode was alright when he was number three to John Penney and Raleigh Gilbert (my personal favourite of the trio) and Goode only got IMO nauseatingly self-satisfied after getting the top job.
I always thought Julian Wilson was poor as a commentator when Peter O’Sullevan was on holiday.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“I actually thought Goode was alright when he was number three to John Penney and Raleigh Gilbert (my personal favourite of the trio) and Goode only got IMO nauseatingly self-satisfied after getting the top job.”
Thought all 3 were poor although of course Raleigh had a good sounding voice, his accuracy was fairly limited though.
Although a bit old fashioned for some I quite liked their predecessor Tony Cooke.
Didn’t look forward to Sir Peter’s annual holiday when Wilson took over, usually fitted in with the Vernon’s Sprint Cup, although not when he won it.Last time I listened to racing commentary on BBC radio it had seriously gone downhill, a far cry from Peter Bromley’s heyday.
“I always thought Julian Wilson was poor as a commentator when Peter O’Sullevan was on holiday.”
Poor is being kind to him. He was absolutely terrible.
The incident CarryOnKatie refers to caused a huge falling out between Wilson and O’Sullevan. Wilson felt O’Sullevan had misled him, O’Sullevan claimed Wilson had misunderstood. He also (accurately) said Wilson was not a good race commentator and would not have been suited to the role.
The rift never healed. Wilson’s dislike of O’Sullevan was still clear in his obituary of O’Sullevan in “The Guardian” which he had filed before his own death.
Wilson disliked everything and everyone, CAS. It was…
Wrong because a woman had taken his job.
Wrong because Sunday is the Lord’s day.
etc etcValue Is Everything“Raleigh had a good sounding voice”
I think you nailed it, Yeats, Gilbert wasn’t a particularly good commentator, I just thought he had a particularly good voice for racing commentary.
Re Wilson, I’m no fan of Clare Balding, but I thought the “R Sole” letter Wilson sent in was disrespectful both to her and to his former employer – absolutely zero quality.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"We should do a forum group commentary … say on the Ayr Gold Cup
Hughsie ” And there off ”
Chezza ” Where my Hobnobs ”
Cas ” Am I still leading the pick 3 on Saturday league ”
Triptych ” Is Aricebo running ”
VTC ” I’ve not done a single , just a Tricast ”
Gamble ” I’ve just commented on a topic from 2011 ”
HDLG ” Where’s the stats …. I need stats
And it’s all over , what a great race , who won
Group ” **** knows ”
Chezza ” Someone has definitely stolen my biscuits ”
Simon Holt is and has always been my favourite commentator. I don’t mind Stewart Machin when he’s doing it. If any of the others were replaced I wouldn’t miss them.
Raleigh Gilbert used his voice to good effect, as he had a lucrative sideline doing voice overs for TV and radio commercials.
He was one of a group of commentators from that era who had lived and worked in the colonies (Kenya in his case) and had voices that conjured a picture of a District Officer in neatly pressed khaki shorts, with a cane tucked under his arm. As played in films by Dickie Attenborough, Richard Todd or Trevor Howard.
“Poor Jud is dead
Poor Jud is dead”All said and done – I liked Julian Wilson and will put a word in for his monotone forthrightness. I miss seeing his furrowed brow and his brown hat too.
I quite like a bit of boredom and a certain impertinence on the screen. He could be a bit orf in his life, but this is an encouragement for us others to do better 🙏Raleigh Gilbert was, as his name suggests, a descendant of the Elizabethan adventurers and half brothers Sir Humphrey Gilbert and Sir Walter Raleigh
His brother Geoffrey and family still live in the original family home of Compton Castle, a pile near Torquay now bequeathed to the National Trust
On a visit some years ago I had a chat with the accomodating Geoffrey and mention of Raleigh drew a warm if rueful smile. Something of the black sheep of the family: too fond of those eternal ill-suited bedfellows of wine, women and horses was the gist, and his time in Kenya seemed rather more enforced by the family rather than his choice
Pronunciation I was clearly informed was Rawly, not Rarly and certainly not Rally
He died alone with his body being undiscovered for several days if memory serves. A sad if not altogether surprising end
A splendid voice indeed
A rare occasion when Raleigh Gilbert got to call the second half, not the first, of the 2,000 Guineas: https://youtu.be/knNK4porPYY?si=-Zdk3DwK4bXfVnir
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