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- February 19, 2010 at 05:05 #14159
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Nicky Henderson had the world at his feet with Binocular Zaynar and Punjabi all holding realistic chances of winning the Champion Hurdle…..Now he’ll be lucky if one of them makes a place.
Unless he can pull off one of his magic tricks it’s looking on paper like a straight match bewtween Go Native and Solwhit.
I don’t know how wealthy the owner of Dunguib is but if he’s got a few bob I would be insisting he ran.
If he’s half as good as some think he is he would surely win what is not a great renewal?
February 19, 2010 at 08:16 #277738If he had hurdled like Istabraq last time out, I’d say yes, but his jumping doesn’t look the slickest at present (despite his massive engine), and that could be his downfall in the CH.
It won’t help in the Supreme either, but the Champion would be a much less forgiving race.
If he was mine he’d be over fences by now anyway; no point messing around over hurdles at his age!
February 19, 2010 at 08:39 #277740A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush
February 19, 2010 at 09:05 #277742If he had hurdled like Istabraq last time out, I’d say yes, but his jumping doesn’t look the slickest at present (despite his massive engine), and that could be his downfall in the CH.
It won’t help in the Supreme either, but the Champion would be a much less forgiving race.
If he was mine he’d be over fences by now anyway; no point messing around over hurdles at his age!
Why would the CH be less forgiving??………are the hurdles bigger??………Id say as the quality of the CH field this year looks…….not very good to say the least…then Dunguib should take its place in the line up. Win a Champion Hurdle then next season he could be ripe for fences.
February 19, 2010 at 09:41 #277744No, the Supreme is the correct race for Dunguib at this stage.
February 19, 2010 at 13:00 #277793This decision should have been made weeks ago. I cant understand why owners didn’t run him in the Irish champion hurdle won by Solwhit at the end of January. It’s not as if novices haven’t run in that race before.
If it was apparant he wasn’t going to win, then he could have been eased down, not had a hard race, and his prep was done for the supreme.
If he won on the bridle, then the owners could now be going in confidence for a pot of over 200,000, rather than the 57,000 they will get for winning the supreme.
February 19, 2010 at 13:04 #277794I think he should run in the Supreme, it looks like a penalty kick to me.
February 19, 2010 at 13:16 #277799I recall the same debate in 1978, jockey’s too young, neither horse nor jockey has not got the experience, etc etc
If Eddie O’Grady had it all to do again I’m 100% sure Golden Cygnet would have been running in The Champion Hurdle and of course the times tell us he’d have won it by 20 lengths or soFebruary 19, 2010 at 13:17 #277800I recall the same debate in 1978, jockey’s too young, neither horse nor jockey has got the experience, etc etc
If Eddie O’Grady had it all to do again I’m 100% sure Golden Cygnet would have been running in The Champion Hurdle and of course the times tell us he’d have won it by 20 lengths or soFebruary 19, 2010 at 13:35 #277804No he shouldnt. Theres time and he needs to really get that hurdling just right
February 19, 2010 at 13:45 #277806I recall the same debate in 1978, jockey’s too young, neither horse nor jockey has not got the experience, etc etc
If Eddie O’Grady had it all to do again I’m 100% sure Golden Cygnet would have been running in The Champion Hurdle and of course the times tell us he’d have won it by 20 lengths or soIf you genuinely belive Golden Cygnet would have won the Champion by 20 lengths you are seriously deluded
February 19, 2010 at 14:00 #277816Golden Cygnet was a hard held 15 lengths winner of The Supreme while Monksfield Sea Pigeon and Night Nurse battled out the finish in the CH yet Golden Cygnet clocked the fastest time.
Tell me how much GC would have won by?February 19, 2010 at 14:18 #277821It’s impossibble to say, whilst I have no doubt he would have gone close my gut instinct is he would have fought out second place with Sea Pigeon. He wasn’t exactly hard held in the Supreme and times are pretty much irrelevant.
Back on subject though if Dunguib were mine he’d be going for the Champion, strike whilst the irons hot.
February 19, 2010 at 14:19 #277822
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Golden Cygnet was a hard held 15 lengths winner of The Supreme while Monksfield Sea Pigeon and Night Nurse battled out the finish in the CH yet Golden Cygnet clocked the fastest time.
Tell me how much GC would have won by?
You’d certainly need much more evidence than a fast time.
February 19, 2010 at 14:57 #277832Dunguibs owner and trainer will do whatever is best for the horse. If they were interested in money they could have sold him for a fortune by now. Didn’t Golden Cygnet get killed racing out of novice company?
February 19, 2010 at 15:35 #277837Comparing the time taken by Golden Cygnet with the time of the Champion Hurdle at the same meting would be a shade more convincing if the two races had been run over the same distance.
But back then, they weren’t. The Champion Hurdle in 1970’s was run over 2m 1f, the novice race over 2m.
AP
February 19, 2010 at 17:10 #277860
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There’s one swan that turned out to be a goose then?
Cheers AP.
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