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Voy por Ustedes is currently marked at 168,the last time he had such a "low" rating he beat Master Minded over 21/2m at Aintree,the reason he will get an entry for the Champion Chase is because of the situation with Master Minded! No Master and its wide open! Voy por would still have an e/w chance in the Queen Mother,36 on the machine is tempting just in case!
If you fancy Voy Por then surely Schindler’s Hunt is massively overpriced.
Overpriced yes! 40"s for the Ryanair and 500 for the Champion Chase,i personally think he is a very good 2 miler,his overall record is not convincing enough to be a grade 1 winner over 21/2m imo of course!
On the decline as is My Way de Solzen unfortunately…
What’s the odds on Alan King having NO festival winners this year?!
Well you might be correct there Rich…but as he has had such a poor first half of the year it could mean one or two of his horses improve 2nd half of the season – when the cold snap ends. Perhaps even make one or two better handicapped than they might otherwise have been. I’d be especially interested to see what mark his Novice Hurdlers and/or novice chasers get for the handicaps at the festival.
It looks to me that if VPU wins the Game Spirit he will be running in 2 mile Champ chase. Those Betfair odds look sure to shorten
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What’s the odds on Alan King having NO festival winners this year?!Rich……I’ve been thinking (the unthinkable)….
What’s the odds that WILLIE MULLINS will have NO festival winners this year?!
The problems he’s having with his string make me wonder if he’ll be sending many over and how ready the ones that do show up will be?
Only one winner from his last dozen runners, rumours galore, no firm decisions over his major horses, no strong bumper entry….something is FAR from rightHe was 4/5 favourite based on a 14l win against a poor field. He didn’t jump well all last year and that was always going to catch him out. He hasn’t jumped well again this year but he is a much more realistic price. Not that I would back him.
He was 4/5 favourite based on a 14l win against a poor field.
Really!
Nothing to do with the fact that he has won 2 successive Grade 1 melling chases,an Arkle and a Champion chase,as well as running a blinder in last years Ryanair,all at Cheltenham!Just out of interest TAPK, what odds would you have Voy Por and Schindler’s Hunt in a match race?
Just out of interest TAPK, what odds would you have Voy Por and Schindler’s Hunt in a match race?
Very clever thm! bearing in mind theres barely 1 length between them on their last 2 races, you would be mad to go bigger Evs the pair,that would thereby compliment your observation that Schindlers is overpriced! Snaffle the 40"s!
Apart from the Amlin Chase, where Voy Por Ustedes was 8 lengthd ahead of Schindler’s Hunt, there has never been much between them.
Where"s GAZ Por ustedes when you need him?
Im here.
As for Voy Por, he will come on in the second half of the season, i.e. between now and Cheltenham. A very much under-rated horse, and i can never fathom why exactly.
He ran a great race in the Ryanair last year, but made a mistake 2 out, which ultimately knocked his momentum and gave the race to Imperial Commander.
Voy Por going to the Champion Chase will all be down to how he does in the Game Spirit, and also how Master Minded is, in terms of ‘zest’, near the festival. I.e. does he still have a rib problem, and is he fit.
I’d much rather see Voy Por in the Ryanair, as i think if he puts in a clear round of jumping, then he will be in with a very big chance, and he is big odds AP at the moment.
He jumped really well at Leopardstown recently, and the team were really pleased with him, and why not, he travelled really well, but he doesnt stay 3 miles on a track like Cheltenham and Leopardstown. I know it doesn’t have the undulations of Cheltenham, maybe, but it isnt the flattest of tracks.
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They don’t come much more consistent than VPU. I think he won one of the poorest QMCC I’ve ever seen but that doesn’t mean he can’t win the likes of the Ryanair.
I’d say despite his limited ability there is no Imperial Commander in the race this year and he could go close but he would need lot of luck in running. By that I mean a few running below their best.
There’s more chance of others running below par than there is him but I think anyone who backs him has to be thinking EW.
Where"s GAZ Por ustedes when you need him?
Im here.
As for Voy Por, he will come on in the second half of the season, i.e. between now and Cheltenham. A very much under-rated horse, and i can never fathom why exactly.
He ran a great race in the Ryanair last year, but made a mistake 2 out, which ultimately knocked his momentum and gave the race to Imperial Commander.
Voy Por going to the Champion Chase will all be down to how he does in the Game Spirit, and also how Master Minded is, in terms of ‘zest’, near the festival. I.e. does he still have a rib problem, and is he fit.
I’d much rather see Voy Por in the Ryanair, as i think if he puts in a clear round of jumping, then he will be in with a very big chance, and he is big odds AP at the moment.
He jumped really well at Leopardstown recently, and the team were really pleased with him, and why not, he travelled really well, but he doesnt stay 3 miles on a track like Cheltenham and Leopardstown. I know it doesn’t have the undulations of Cheltenham, maybe, but it isnt the flattest of tracks.
Well played Gaz,thanks for that! Fist 10/1 is a solid e/w price
get on with Ladbrokes,he will be half that price cometh the day!Well played Gaz,thanks for that! Fist 10/1 is a solid e/w price
get on with Ladbrokes,he will be half that price cometh the day!10/1 is a massive price.
He did win all those races (the seasons before) but I thought he was below par last year and to be honest I think it’s because of the change in distance. 4/5, I maintain, was a shoite price.
VPU imho jumps better over 2m for some reason but i’ll agree that without an imperial commander in the field at 10’s he is a fair price.
The thing I can’t understand about this market is Tranquil Sea’s price in relation to Poquelin. Ok he was getting 3lbs but he travelled like a travelator and Poquelin just couldn’t go the pace when they wound it up and stayed on through horses. I know Nicholls has said he’ll improve for the ground and is the most improved horse in his stable but Tranquil Sea is rated higher and has clearly improved.
I’ve started to back O’Grady’s charge AP and think he is the most likely winner…
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