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Does anyone know the conditions of the Ryanair Chase? What are the penalty clauses? Thanks in anticipation.
<br>Weights – 11st, 5-y-olds 10st 8lbs, mares get 7lbs
Penalties – Grade 2 winner 3lbs, Grade 1 winner 7lbs.
No time limits on those penalties and no concessions for novices either.
AP
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Just spent 20 minutes looking for them and Pottsy beats be to it!!!!!!!!!
GRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrr!!;)
Colin
It is a grade 1 isn’t it? I fancy Monkerhostin at 20-1 only it has multiple enteries at cheltenham as do alot of horses in the race Kauto Star has a entry if he runs surely he only has to get round
<br>It’s Grade 2 – Grade 1 races don’t have penalties in their conditions.
It isn’t Grade 1 presumably because we already have Grade 1 races over two and half miles at Ascot in February and Aintree in April.
AP
THE RYANAIR CHASE
Class 1, Grade 2, £175,000 Total Prize Fund. 2.35pm, Thursday, March 15, 2007. For five year olds and upwards, two miles & five furlongs. Weights: 5yo 10st 8lb; 6yo+ 11st. Allowances: mares 7lb. Penalties: after September 30, 2005, a winner of a Grade 2 chase 3lb; of a Grade 1 Chase 5lb. Entries closed February 7, entries revealed February 12 (46 entries). Forfeit stage February 20, six-day confirmation stage March 9,
Perhaps it is time to downgrade the Scilly Isles and Ascot Chases to Grade 2, upgrade the Ryanair to Group 1 and give novices an arbitrary allowance, say 3 or 5lb to encourage their participation.
<br>Rory,
Is that from the Program Book?
Because I looked at the Weatherbys website equivalent when I provided the info this morning and the ‘after September 30,2005’ clause isn’t shown on there.
That surprised me, which was why I mentioned the lack of any time limits.
There also seems to be a difference on the Grade 1 penalty – is it 5lbs or 7lbs?
AP
<br>Apologies all round – the info supplied by Rory is spot on.
I’ve no idea how I got it so wrong this morning, but checking the Weatherbys website again this evening, I clearly did.
AP
Quote: from davidjohnson on 6:34 pm on Feb. 20, 2007[br]Perhaps it is time to downgrade the Scilly Isles and Ascot Chases to Grade 2, upgrade the Ryanair to Group 1 and give novices an arbitrary allowance, say 3 or 5lb to encourage their participation. <br>
I think they would be afraid of what it would do to the Gold cup. Lots of speedy 3 milers would find it easier not to chance the gold cup and the its reputation could suffer over time.
SHL
I disagree, although in theory if both races were Grade 1 they would be of equal merit, but prize money and prestige would reflect differently.
Every owner and breeder would still aim to have a Gold Cup winner rather than a Ryanair winner.
I rather think that making the Ryanair a Grade 2 was a diplomatic move designed to keep Aintree happy who no doubt covet the Melling Chase it’s position of premier late season event at the trip.
Being somewhat anal when it comes to tidiness I would like to see it upgraded simply because it would then form an orderly set of Grade 1 chases at the Festival.
If it was made a Gr1 then the Stayers would be again relegated to the #2 race on the card after only 2 years in the limelight on its own. I can’t see it happening for a couple of years yet.
re: The Ryanair Chase
I bet they tell you it’s at Cheltenham in the adverts but thaey actually run it at a much smaller course some 40 miles away.:biggrin:
Mike
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