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i could not agree more about the press and media nothing gets up my nose more than some idiot running up to a jockey sticking a mic up his nose (the jockeythat is) and saying what was that like i hope one day ryan moore will say f…k off ,i was lucky enough many years ago to have the odd leg or two in afew horses and the only people the jockey spoke to after the race were the connections and or the stewards,exactly the way it should be.
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the only people the jockey spoke to after the race were the connections and or the stewards,exactly the way it should be.
Really? Surely the jockey should communicate with the media and spectators in a similar manner to footballers, tennis players ……
Or are you saying racing does not need to advertise and promote their sport in an open and friendly manner?So it’s ok to have a polite chat with the media and spectators after connections have been informed?
Sean clearly on a wind-up mission.
Moore has no obligation to talk to the media. I think certain footballers, tennis players will be advised to be media friendly to protect their commercial arrangements, many of which rely on them maintaining a certain media presence. Also I think Sky’s football coverage has clauses about access to players/managers after games. I’m sure the last thing plenty players want to do, particularly after losing, is conduct a run of teh mill post match interview. They do it because they are bound to.
However, Ryan Moore would do well to remember which side of the bread has the cow-fat on it. There is a thin line between having an uneasy relationship with the media and having them against you. In the relatively small, incestuous world of UK racing journalists are, with a few notable exceptions, some of whom I’m delighted to report are members of this forum, loath to get on the wrong side of the key players as they know that those relationships are vital to their ongoing ability to earn a living.
If Moore continuies to progress and racks up a few championships or Derby wins he’ll find the media at large are not quite so forgiving.I cannot understand why racing should have an uneasy relationship with the media and Greg Wood alludes to this in his article today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/ju … rseracing1
Why do the jockeys not promote themselves in a similar manner to footballers, etc? Why are they so closely shackled to the owners/trainers?
Seems a shame to me as we have got some delightful characters who would interest the public and promote racing in a positive way.I cannot understand why racing should have an uneasy relationship with the media and Greg Wood alludes to this in his article today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/ju … rseracing1
Why do the jockeys not promote themselves in a similar manner to footballers, etc? Why are they so closely shackled to the owners/trainers?
Seems a shame to me as we have got some delightful characters who would interest the public and promote racing in a positive way.Indeed.
It’s a first rate article, which everyone should read, inwardly digest, and in the case of "racing’s rulers", act upon.
But don’t hold your breath.
I especially liked this bit:
“No-one believes that every last person in racing is 100% honest. The sport has people who actively want to corrupt it, just as the BBC has people who actively fiddle their expense accounts.”
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Can’t ever remember Lester’s reticence being a stumbling block to his popularity, with punters or the public?
Neither does it seem to bother Ryan Moore’s main retainer, who has been known to cock the media a deaf ‘un on several occasions, but still has the respect of most in the game?
RM’s young and he’s still learning, but while-ever he continues to make fewer mistakes than most of his contemporaries in bringing home the bacon, he will surely overcome putting a few press noses out of joint.
(Having a good relationship with the media didn’t do KF a lot of good when the chips were down, either.)
Lester had a sense of humour ~ when he told Thommo to #@#! off, he seemed to have a glint in his eye.
I wouldn’t pay much attention to anything on Panorama which is a shadow of its former self and has become a sensation conspiracy seeking programme. People, including Ryan Moore, are under no obligation to talk to the media and the recent fiasco with the allegations against Fallon imo show that the media and the criminal justice service seem convinced with no evidence to support it that there is wholesale corruption within racing which is obviously not the case.
Good piece on the issue from Greg Wood in todays Guardian.
Just to clarify, what will likely be a minority viewpoint here, I meant what i said: "keep it zipped" used to be and still should be the watchword in the racing game.
I realise that there are several media -types who make a decent living from talking and writing about racing, and that there are many more who would love to be getting paid for spouting their bit too, but let’s remember our priorities:
racing isn’t some kind of " Roy of the Rovers" jackanory comic strip, it’s a serious money-grubbing business, in which there is a lot of pain and, sometimes, a lot of gain.Indeed, if we stand back and take a good look, we can clearly see how the onslaught of media and political hype and spin is closely linked to the general degradation of British society over the years ( closely followed by Irish society, where all the same old mistakes have been replicated).
Now is the time to get the parasites off the back of racing!
If folk wish to chew the fat and talk shite, then, by all means, let them do so, but let it be on one of these fora, or, perhaps,on a special " brains trust"- style programme that comes on in the wee hours after the epilogue.Anything, so long as it’s not on the racetrack!
Sean, Your viewpoint is not minority. ”Keep it zipped” still is the watchword of a sport where information is everything. What young Moore has to learn is that you can appear to be openly saying a lot but still keeping it zipped. Gosden and Nicholls (Paul) are masters in this respect whereas you can see Channel 4’s Mcgrath , knowlegdeable though he is, doesn’t even go through the motions of passing on information.
BBC are worse though.
Stu
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