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Was Cork being broadcast on terrestrial tv in Ireland if so this is why they probably couldn’t wait in the same way Sandown would not wait for another countries track as itv have a strict schedule.
Also as itv were showing both Wincanton & Sandown they have a 15/20 min gap between races every week, as I understand it itv dictate the times on the races they show.
Next week there are four jumps tracks on Rtv on Saturday so expect it to be even worse next week.
True, Steve, I will be watching closely. Meanwhile, no doubt Naas will get royal treatment from RTV tomorrow but I’m fuming I can’t watch an excellent card at Plumpton as a complement because SSR doesn’t kick in on NOW TV until Tuesday!
This is like when a football team buys a player off one of their rivals, not because they need them, or that they are any better than what they have already, or that they add value to the starting eleven, but because having them, and their rival not, will simply weaken the opposition.
The idea that Irish racing will have its own specific red button type online channels is also strange, while all courses should have their own individual broadcast, if it is being limited to one or two tracks then why isn’t it the main meeting of the day on it, so say for instance Sandown today ?
Wouldn’t all the Irish fixtures race times have already been in place before the new deal was done with RTV?
If that is the case, would they be allowed to alter the race times going forward so that they are staggered better with RTV’s UK courses?
All courses have their own stream online, which can be cast to TV, and I think that some Irish racing does add value. The problem is accommodating all of it on actual TV platforms to the satisfaction of viewers both sides of the Irish Sea. Failure to achieve this by RTV may ultimately strengthen a rival who has channels to burn.
I don’t believe the fixture list had been finalised, let alone race times, when the deal was done and apparently there have been lots of discussions between RTV and HRI subsequently. I suppose the truth is you can’t get a quart into a pint pot without spilling a fair bit of liquid so need two pint pots (TV channels).
@goldenmiller UK racecourses have a tendancy to not go off to time especially on a Saturday afternoon how often have we seen horses saunter down to post at Sandown or Newmarket a minute or two past post time?
Irish tracks are much more organised and ready which is why having a jumps meeting in the UK 5 mins before an irish meeting is ridiculous.
One good bit of news for Rtv is the Grand National meeting all the other UK tracks on that day are on SSR.
Irish Oaks meeting on 20 July has Cartmel, Market Rasen, Newbury and Newmarket to fit in as well that will certainly not be a Saturday for those that like some in depth coverage of their racing.
True about the UK tracks on National day, Steve, but that has always been the case whereas this year RTV has the rights to quite an important early Flat meeting at Leopardstown. Anything in excess of the barest minimum coverage of that on the main channel will be the final straw.
The four days of Cheltenham is unaffected, there is just the usual drossfest at Huntingdon on the Wednesday. As (for the first time) last year we will have to put up with Taunton and Leicester (Flat) on the Thursday and Friday of Aintree respectively.
Never mind a second referendum, I am calling for a second RTV channel!
On the individual streams for each course- yes it helps a little, but when you advertise 5 presenters, why haven’t they provided some form of pre + post race analysis on the Cork stream? Its ridiculous, instead i listened to birds tweeting and people having conversations. Awful change from ATR, where we were able to enjoy interviews with some of the great characters within Irish racing.
Hope it gets sorted fairly quick.
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!Yes, Jack, that is the trouble with the individual streams. Sure, each can be cast but all you get is the basic feed from the course, a couple of static cameras, the course commentator and birds tweeting lol. It’s hardly riveting TV (except sometimes, amid great excitement, the birds switch to Facebook!)
On NYD there was an additional stream for the two Irish meetings with its own studio host and presenters at each track. How often this will be the case remains to seen, RTV obviously didn’t feel one meeting was worthy of it.
I will only be using Extra as a fourth choice behind the main channel, ITV and SSR to watch a desired race without risk of a split screen. If Cork was your main interest yesterday there was no satisfactory way of enjoying it.
steveh31, I would have said it was the other way around. Irish racing never starts on time, or very rarely. I often got back to my TV a minute or more after post time and they hadn’t started racing. UK is much better at timekeeping than the Irish ever are.
Goldenmiller- that’s interesting i never knew that about NYD as i couldn’t watch the racing as i was too hungover!! Hopefully they do it more often then!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!As someone who used to work in a bookies I can assure you that Irish racing is (or at least was, been a few years now) horrendous for going off on time. The bloody 9.25 at Dundalk was always late off, usually after even the 9.30 closing time.
Someone on the Virgin Media forums says they have contacted Virgin and Sky customer services and both have said SSR will not be in HD on Virgin.
Virgin supposedly said that SSR is not part of the Sky Sports Package therefore it is not going to be available in HD.
If this is true this is an own goal for SSR as both itv and Rtv are HD on Virgin, how can SSR seriously hope to be a rival to the other channels and encourage growth when the second largest viewership is offered just SD?
It’s strange that Virgin would say SSR is not part of the Sky Sports package. On the SS website it is not listed as a channel and the channel is not listed in the TV Guide, however, in the ‘Sport on Sky’ section SSR’s live programmes are listed. NOW TV, on its forum, confirms SSR will appear tomorrow, therefore, it is being considered by Sky as part of its sports package (as that is all I subscribe to) whereas ATR wasn’t. Perhaps Virgin will see it differently from tomorrow.
At this rate, if it were a football match, both RTV and SSR would be lucky to get nil.
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