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Recently done a lot of research into 70s chasers and came up with an interesting question. There were plenty of chasers in the mid 70s wth Roman numerals eg Interview II, Meridian II etc, but I noticed looking at Irish results almost all the horses had VI after them. Does anyone know the reason for this. There was also Sebastian V who I think was bred in Scotland. Are they national indicators.
My favourite horses - Red Rum, Spanish Steps, Proud Tarquin, Esban, Go-Pontinental, Barona, Charles Dickens, The Dikler, Astbury, Black Secret, Vulgan Town, Huperade, Well To Do, Crisp, Quintus, Argent, Colebridge, Pearl Of Montreal, Nereo, Sonny Somers, Tubs VI, Tartan Ace, Red Candle, L'Escargot, Bula, Beau Bob, Rouge Autumn, Rough Silk, Frodo, Deblin's Green, Prince Tino, Eyecatcher, The Pilgarlic, Captain Christy, Mr Midland, Interview II, Credit Call, My Virginian, Flush Of Diamonds, Scout, Money Ma
Your question piqued my interest Nafsasp as this used to be common but seems to have died out.
I found this old thread which may be of use https://theracingforum.co.uk/forums/topic/numerical-suffixes/
Hopefully one of the very knowledgeable modern-day posters on here will be able to elaborate on this further!
That’s great, thanks, I had no idea, it would make sense as an awful lot of them in Ireland ran in Hunter Chases.
My favourite horses - Red Rum, Spanish Steps, Proud Tarquin, Esban, Go-Pontinental, Barona, Charles Dickens, The Dikler, Astbury, Black Secret, Vulgan Town, Huperade, Well To Do, Crisp, Quintus, Argent, Colebridge, Pearl Of Montreal, Nereo, Sonny Somers, Tubs VI, Tartan Ace, Red Candle, L'Escargot, Bula, Beau Bob, Rouge Autumn, Rough Silk, Frodo, Deblin's Green, Prince Tino, Eyecatcher, The Pilgarlic, Captain Christy, Mr Midland, Interview II, Credit Call, My Virginian, Flush Of Diamonds, Scout, Money Ma
So not that long ago (probably up until the early 90s), our local pt to pt had a members’ race in which people ran their hunters. Through some quirk of Turf Club rules, the hunters had to be registered, because the race was part of the official card. You could do this by saying that the dam was unregistered, and the horse was ‘said to be by’ whatever TB stallion. This meant you had all these hairy hunters in the stud book. I can still search for them now in the RP! They all had VI after their names, so that’s where that comes from. Then you have Pampered Finch VII (dam of His Song), and she has ‘damsire unregistered’ against her name. Her damsire was Pitpan II. There is some information if you search for Weatherbys Non-Thoroughbred Register, but I don’t think they mention the numerals. I don’t think the VI scenario could happen any more, since there is DNA testing, but I’m not 100% sure of that. Zara Phillips’ Olympic event horse High Kingdom is out of High Dolly VI, who was supposed to be 7/8 TB and won several point to points and ran in the banks race at Punchestown (the La Touche).
Weatherbys say this much:
It should be noted that where a mare is registered as a broodmare with a VII suffix as part of its name (denoting unregistered pedigree), such mares are not eligible to race under the Rules of Racing in Great Britain or Ireland.
https://www.weatherbys.co.uk/Weatherbys/media/PDFs/ntr-conditions.pdf
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