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Clive Holt, the mastermind behind Fineform, (a sort of Do-It-Yourself Isiris), wrote several books, so there is a precedent for tipsters becoming authors.
I guess the book of his most people remember is the Fineform Formula – a forty page treatise, bound in a rich claret cover, about the size of a book of psalms.
I’m sure there are forumites who can remember his formula.
Hi Folks,
Just curious if anyone out there can recommend any resources to help improve punting? (books, internet sites, contacts etc..)
Im always looking for new/alternative angles in to winner/selection finding, so if anyone has any suggestions, Id love to hear them!!
Happy New year to all
Hi,
Something to add in to the mix that I used to use very frequently – that is, day-by-day – is the RP Results section, all of it.
Not very sexy, I know, but if you find it interesting & can therefore easily persevere, I think it’s worth it.
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I bought the history of the Sporting Life yesterday at Chelts, anyone read this book before?
Looks ok, hope it’s not a dust collector!
Max – I can instantly recount Clive’s formula verbatim! In fact I once spent a year developing a system around it involving two year olds at the end of the 1980’s. It worked really well for about three years but then faltered, seemingly when some changes to the way two year old races were framed upset it, although that could be coincidental as most systems do seem to have a cycle for one reason or another (probably that old statistical leveller ‘regression to the mean’ – the bane of successful backfitted systems).
Clives formula seemed naive, even to one as naive as me, but the basic, simple logic had an intuitively attractive feel to it and there are many worse and more complex systems around. If I was going racing and had no time to look at form or anything then I’d still (and do) use it to pick them out ‘blind’.
There are a few American books that might be of some help:-
Beyer on Speed
Ainslie’s complete guide to thoroughbred racing
Betting Thoroughbreds
Nick Mordins books are a good read as well, his thoughts on his web site are quite good.
The power of Early SpeedStill available on amazon I think some published a while ago but still applicable.
Hope this helps
John
I well remember having read Clive Holt’s book for the first time I pulled off 5 placepots on the trot one of which paid about £600 quid – it must have been around 87 – 88 as I brought my missus a Nissan Sunny with the winnings
– a great book.At the moment I am reading ‘The Betting Man’ – a biography of William Hill and also John McCririck’s ‘World of Betting’, both of which are a decent read. However, I wouldn’t necessarily recommend anyone buying them but if like me you can get them from the Library they are worth a varder.
Glad someone else remembers Clive and the formula, chaps.
Picked up Mike Atherton’s "Gambling" today at a hospital for a fiver. I’ve been looking for that for ages. Anyone else read it?
Picked up Mike Atherton’s "Gambling" today at a hospital
Ha – bizarre Max! Hospital??
Never read it though. Is that the cricketer?
Indeed, sir. At the bottom of a pile of discounted books next to the biogaphy of forum fave, Jo Brand.
Had to have it even though racing is just a part of the story.
That is indeed
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Mike Atherton – the Lion of South Africa, Corm.
Isiris Unveiled
Best ever racing book, though the bookmakers (I believe) got it banned from being published in the UK and I think they had to get it printed in east asia, it was only sold to members I think and I doubt you would get a copy of it now. Though if you do manage it then the book is gold dust.
Has anyone actually read this particular book?
I would be interested to get hold of a copy, anybody know if it is availablle anywhere??
I have no idea where you can find this book. It does sound very good. I’m a natural skeptic though and you know what they say about things that sound too good to be true…
A good book that some of you may be interested in reading though is the Zurich Axioms.
Essentially a collection of anecdotes and tales that form a philosophy for betting and speculating. The author mostly talks about his experiences in the stock market but many of the ‘axioms’ are applicable to racing or elsewhere.
You can read some of the book at amazon – http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zurich-Axioms-M … 0285630954.
I noticed that a lot of
poeple that bought that book
also boughtthe luck factor
Kinda makes you wonder
Isiris Unveiled
Bit of an old thread but just saw this book on eBay for £9.99.
having Googled for more info to see if it was worth it I landed here. The posts left me undecided if was worth a punt and as FREE is always best a further Google led me to this where I was able to download it:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8w4uj9fv15rry3k/Isiris+Unveiled.pdf
Just have to read it now.
Hi Kasparov,I too read Birds book,many years ago;he stated that Martin Molony was the best jockey he ever saw.Martin is my all time fav. jockey and racing person.He is still with us and approaching seniority.His son Peter is very active in the breeding side of the business and is a very nice person.Since I never rode, everything I know about race riding I learned from Martin.Everything he shared with me is totally applicable to today’s riders.Incidentally he never shared with me how he was able to put the most willful horses to sleep and only wake them up when necessary.A question about that only got a wry smile from Martin.Incidentally I have a wonderful photo of Tony and Martin when Tony visited Martin about three years ago.
I can now understand why it is free.
Having read it I agree with you and glad I was not tempted to part with £9.99, never mind some of the ludicrous asking prices.
Isiris Unveiled
Best ever racing book, though the bookmakers (I believe) got it banned from being published in the UK and I think they had to get it printed in east asia, it was only sold to members I think and I doubt you would get a copy of it now. Though if you do manage it then the book is gold dust.
Has anyone actually read this particular book?
I would be interested to get hold of a copy, anybody know if it is availablle anywhere??
As with all tipping books, I suspect the bookies would have paid the publication costs rather than those of a QC to prevent publication.
The only online reference I could find to a court preventing publication was because the company could not satisfy the court as to the claims it made in the book.
– a great book.
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