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Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot)

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  • #1697384
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    If Sunak is genuinely try to win this election then his actions/behaviour over the last week are of a man completely out of his depth , and let’s all remember he lost a popularity vote to Truss ….

    #1697391
    Avatar photoDrone
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    For those people who dismiss it is as a prank, if someone chucked a milkshake over them as they were simply going about their day, would they not consider themselves to have been assaulted?

    Like spitting on someone, in law it’s classed as Common Assault, one of the many classes of Offences Against The Person

    see:

    https://www.isonharrison.co.uk/blog/my-milkshake-brings-all-of-the-protestors-how-does-the-law-apply-to-the-headlines/

    which mentions an earlier ‘milkshaking’ of Farage

    Law aside, I simply regard such incidents as puerile in the extreme

    My admiration for John Prescott increased after he landed a fist on some tosser who ‘egged’ him

    #1697412
    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    Headline in the “Mail On Sunday”:

    “Conservatives face election wipeout with Labour set to gain a 416 majority that could see Rishi Sunak LOSING his seat and the Tories being left with just 39 MPs, shock Mail on Sunday poll reveals”.

    “The polling company carefully caveats that the projection is based on a crude uniform swing, and should be treated with caution.”

    Maybe we do have to be cautious. The “Mail On Sunday” could be trying to scare a few floating voters into voting Conservative.

    But if that happens – and it is not impossible – it will be a truly extraordinary achievement by Sunak to destroy the single most electorally successful party in British political history. It would be a suitable verdict on an arrogant and disloyal man, who only achieved power in what was little more than a shabby coup d’etat.

    #1697414
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    “The “Mail On Sunday” could be trying to scare a few floating voters into voting Conservative.”

    The Mail On Sunday: talking bollocks since 1982.

    #1697415
    Avatar photoDrone
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    I’ve taken 12/1 Labour to win 500 or more seats. Placed last Wednesday in a Hills shop and they’re now 6/1

    I feel reasonably confident, roll on the ‘big night’

    #1697416
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    Always makes me laugh when I hear the conservatives described as the most successful party in any democracy. When you own most of the media I would bloody well think you should be winning most. They have the two top guys at the bbc now. Democracy my derriere. Amazing labour has won so many times given the odds stacked against them.

    #1697418
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Look on the bright side: the Conservatives always improve the common man’s lot in life.

    Oh wait…

    #1697441
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    I can’t see them getting that many Drone but worth a punt

    #1697442
    homersimpson
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    “Amazing labour has won so many times given the odds stacked against them.”

    These things come in cycles. People only put up with so much. Governments with large majorities such as this one become complacent.

    The Tories will be back, unfortunately. It will depend on what Labour do in this next government and who the Tories pick as leader(s) over the next 4-5 years. Remember the early 2000s. The Tories were in a mess and Labour somehow won the 2005 election despite helping with the invasion of Iraq a couple of years earlier. As big a mistake as you’ll see by any Government.

    I reckon Labour may win the next two elections, the 2024 and then they’ll probably call one in 2028 as their popularity begins to wane but not enough for the Tories to defeat them. The term after will be the full 5 years and depending on how Labour do, their popularity will most likely wane further. This is when there will likely be a Tory majority or Hung Parliament.

    The question is can we put up with 9 years of Starmer :scratch:

    #1697446
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    Starmer would be over 70 at the end of two full terms, Labour will at some point need to start thinking about who will take over or we’ll end up like the USA with a couple of pensioners scrapping it out for the top job.

    #1697485
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    I can’t see them getting that many Drone but worth a punt

    Given that the 450-499 seats spread is favourite at ~11/8, 500+ is IMVHO certainly worth a punt at 12/1: I wouldn’t have been tempted by the 6/1 now generally available on the books, and the ~9/1 on Betfair is short enough

    Anyway for the forum’s amusement here’s how I reckon (hope) the 650 seats will go, if Labour were to win exactly 500

    500 Labour
    55 Conservative
    50 Liberal
    20 SNP
    3 Plaid Cymru
    2 Green
    1 Reform (Farage)
    1 Independent (Corbyn)
    18 NI seats

    Dreams are made of this :good:

    #1697493
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    I really Farage doesn’t get that Clacton seat , id hate to have him as a MP , forget his politics I just don’t see him being interested in the day to day issues of the area

    #1697632
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    Would love to think you are right drone but I just can’t see it. Watching the tories implode is just bloody marvellous but I can see enough of the older tories being loyal and toddling along to the ballot boxes. The irony of buffoon Boris spouting his utter guff in the mail is hysterical as he started the implosion. The tories obviously don’t do irony.

    #1697678
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    Hope you’re right Drone, apart from Farage of course. Plenty of gullible racists in Clacton but there are arguably more in Thanet where he was beaten so I live in hope.

    Meanwhile, as if Sunak’s campaign wasn’t evidence enough of the quality of his entourage, how stupid do you have to be to think you can get away with this?

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/12/rishi-sunaks-closest-aide-placed-bet-on-election-date-days-before-announcement?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

    #1697680
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    I have a bit is sympathy for Sunak, when asked does he know what it was like to go without as a child he eventually muttered he didn’t think they could afford Sky. He may as well of said my father had to make do with a Bentley as he couldn’t afford a Rolls Royce.

    The more I know the less I understand.

    #1697699
    stilvi
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    Come back Andrew Neil.

    What a damp squib Sky’s election effort was tonight. Beth Rigby completely out of her depth. Good luck with finding a single highlight.

    Earlier I watched a BBC film on an area in Middlesborough where it was blindingly obvious police had lost control of the streets. Is it any wonder some voters turn to Farage. Shame they didn’t get a question on that situation.

    #1697715
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    I see the Tories are now scaremongering about a Labour ‘supermajority’. One, I didn’t hear them complaining in 2019 and two, they’ve had 14 years to implement a more democratic voting system. Labour is only polling in the mid-40s, they’d be nowhere near a majority under PR but it’s too late now chaps 😉

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