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Sarah Vine, today’s Mail On Sunday; this sums up my thoughts as well:
Seriously, where do ordinary voters go?
People like me, who arent frothing at the mouth about foreigners but would quite like some control over our borders.
Who dont mind their taxes going to welfare so long as it’s to help those who genuinely need it.
People who arent bothered which god someone worships so long as they dont expect them to join in.
Who appreciate modern sensibilities but dont want our history rewriting.
People who love the NHS but accept it needs radical reform.
Who believe in freedom of expression but dont want it used to silence others.
Where do we go, who do we vote for? There just isnt anybody.Yup millions feel disengaged from politics as no party represents them. Same in the USA. Independents are the biggest block of voters there now and why trump won’t win as he only speaks to his base. Labour doesn’t have any policies that will significantly improve the average person’s life. The tories are basket cases who line their own pockets and the libdems ive no idea what they stand for. The snp without sturgeon look a rudderless ship. Politics has never been so bleak I’m my lifetime and why so many will either tactical vote or not at all. Sad times but that is the reality of it.
I wonder how far right of centre Labour would need to be before Sarah Vine of the MOS considered Labour the natural choice for all those reasonable moderate people like her who write for and read that fine centrist publication?
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You can ‘scoff’ all you like but i’m fairly certain that the millions who will likely ‘lend’ their vote to Labour and the LDs at the GE will NOT likeIncreased pandering to those that make enough noise
Increased bashing of the car owner
An increased ‘drive’ towards net zero (see increased standing charges on leccy, gas)
Turning a blind eye to the rewriting of history.
Ignoring people’s concerns on crime, carrying of knives (Give ’em an immediate 2-year jail sentence)
Reeves will look for ways of increasing the tax burden – no doubt about it. Peeps take note of what Labour DONT mention in their manifesto.
Reforms (NHS, welfare) will be watered down, despite them indicating in recent weeks they’ll be strict on it.
Once in power their MPs on The Left will act just like the Tory Right do in parliament to Sunak, and hold Starmer to ransom over NHS and Welfare reforms.Plus, of course, their treasury coffers will face exactly the same constraints as currently – the deficit wont just magically disappear once Reeves is in No.11.
I see this weekend Starmer and Reeves have already watered down that return to growth pledge they made last year.
Yep, another one of their pledges gone, caput.V little will change Macro-wise.
Expect more of this, once ‘they’ are in power:
An award-winning fish and chip shop has been ordered to remove a Union flag mural by council officials over claims it is ‘inappropriate for the area’.
Chris Kanizi, 65, who owns Golden Chippy, in Greenwich, south-east London, has been told to paint over the mural of the humanoid fish on the wall of his restaurant, which has been adored by tourists.
Greenwich council said they received a ‘number of complaints’ about the mural, which features the phrase ‘A Great British Meal’.Meanwhile, some boroughs in London see the Palestinian flag flying from lamposts.
Go figure.I am not scoffing, Wilts, it’s simply that this government has been in power 14 years, it clearly hasn’t been a net success yet it’s remaining hardcore support has this bizarre idea it has a divine right to rule.
This is a very moderate Labour Party by any historical measure yet many on the right would never want even a Starmer Labour to serve so much as one term in office.
It’s the same on the other side – no matter how much a Labour government messes up, it’s “anything but the Tories.”
Neither side has a right to rule in perpetuity, it wouldn’t be good for democracy if they did.
It’s time for a change – and that’s what I’m now certain we are going to get.
In five to ten years’ time it may be time for a change again – that’s the political pendulum for you.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Are you saying wilts you’d rather keep the worst govt In my lifetime in power rather than starmer. While I’m not excited by him or his cabinet it cannot be worse than what we’ve had in the last 14 years of funnelling money to tory donors and supporters.
‘Where do we go, who do we vote for? There just isnt anybody.’
Why doesn’t she start one? If she speaks for millions then it’ll do well won’t it? Of course it’s probably harder work than a cushy, well-remunerated job mouthing off in the Mail.
History proves the only successful governments sit on the middle ground , to far left and everyone is potless , to far right the haves have everything and the poor rebel and fight , I’m amazed we haven’t seen more unrest akin to the 80s … can you imagine covid in the 80s ….
Indeed. Apathy the biggest threat to democracy IMHO. Folk are only bothered about their wee world and if that’s OK then they don’t care. If the abuses of power by the tories had happened a few decades ago there would have been big unrest. Now everybody hardly even bother to feel upset and shrug their shoulders. Sad times.
Oh dear, politicians are getting involved with football again. Starmer really should be above this nonsense. Who cares what an inconsequential marking on a football shirt that you can barely see looks like? He’s got a point about the cost though
Because Starmer tries, at every point, to distance himself and ‘Even Newer Labour than New Labour’, from Corbyn’s Labour and its Anti-English, Anti-British persona.
The SKS is attempting to portray himself and ‘Even Newer Labour than New Labour’ as English Patriots, compared to Corbyn’s ‘version’ of Recycled Old Labour, tub thumping version of Socialism.
Now here’s an interesting piece from a very well-respected Socialist Guardian journo, who’s chucked in his Labour Party membership and hit the nail on the head re Starmer’s Labour and something i’ve been banging on about:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/21/labour-party-cancelling-membership-policies
While I fully understand Owen Jones frustration with starmer and Labour voting for the greens won’t change anything. In our current system,as with most democracies,it’s a choice of two. Most folk will vote for the least worse as will the yanks and in Europe. Long gone are the days when govt actually did what the electorate want them to do.
Don’t like ’em don’t vote simple as that. Politics bores the backside off me and have zero interest in what any of them say, I haven’t voted in 15+ years and it hasn’t changed my life.
The more I know the less I understand.
RTB- if you haven’t been affected by the ruinous austerity policies of the last fourteen years, you’re in a minority in this country. Everything, from potholes to schools to the NHS, has suffered due to chronic underfunding by this government.
Now here’s an interesting piece from a very well-respected Socialist Guardian journo
Hardly; the consensus outwith Owen Jones’s small tribe on the far left being that he’s a laughing-stock who reels off the type of tired cliched polemic more usually confined to the Students’ Union
That said, the article does at least contain some welcome self-awareness
I’d agree with voting for the ‘least worse’ option, particularly at present as we have collectively the most deeply unsatisfactory bunch of politicians it’s been my displeasure to know over my 60+ years following the great game
It’s got to be Labour and Starmer at the next election: the coronation of a one-eyed king in the land of the blind
I’m generally of the greenish, wishy-washy somewhat left-of-centre persuasion but despite that I came to a similar conclusion in 2010 at the arse-end of a tired Labour administration too long in power: ‘give Cameron a go’ then ‘give Starmer a go’ now
I hope for little but expect less
Yup it’s definitely the least worst option as the tories is not an option surely. Nice for Jones and his ilk they can be idealistic but the reality for the ordinary person is get the tories out and hope starmer can at worst make it slightly less intolerable. Easy for Jones to say vote green. They only have a handful of seats they have a chance of winning otherwise voting green is one less anti tory vote lost. Reality is a bitch but such is life.
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