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I think Ian is on the money here with regards tactical voting. I’ve never made
any bones about being an SNP supporter, hopefully as the only way to escape
this Conservative party that’s ruled Scotland over the years despite not being
voted for in Scotland since 1955. I add that it’s got nothing to do with seperating
from England, it was however everything to do with escaping from Whitehall and a
Conservative government, no more than that. I don’t get the vibe that Scotland are
going to masacre all parties as they have previously done. I feel there is a genuine
worry that we could help the Tories by voting for the SNP and cutting the number of
Labour seats in Scotland.The borders always vote for the tories, God knows why, there is a bit of
money down that way, and like one of my relatives, who shall remain anonymous,
living in the leafy suburbs of middle England, along with all her neighbours
who all seem to be a be of a certain age (bloody old) there isn’t a chance
that they will vote for anyone other than the Tories. I’ve never had to bite
my tongue so much as when I went with said relative to a neighbouhood do. I think
they think it is a status symbol, not to mention racial overtones I hate to say, d
espite the fact that their community is being massively underfunded by said Tories.So SNP member and all that, I’m going to let it be clear that there’s next to
no chance of Scotland getting it’s independance at this time, so I will actively
be trying to persuade as many people as I can to vote for Labour. I don’t love
them, but I would rather stick pins in my eyes than vote Tory.I despair at politics, and don’t even start me on the UK (and the US) basically
giving Israel the go-ahead to masacre tens of thousands of innocent people in
Gazza, rather than using intelligence, guile and stealth to hunt down Hamas (whom
I also hate).At times I’m glad I’m getting old. Actually scrub that, I wish I had a time machine
and in any case I refuse to go quiety into the night. I do however worry for my sons,
their partners and my grandson. Perhaps things are not a lot different to that of the woes
of my younger life, they weren’t a cakewalk either, it perhaps just feels like we’re
as low as we’ve been (wars apart).So, happy days are here again again. The skies above are clear again. Let us sign a song
of chear again. Happy days are here again
Big G im a farmer’s son , all farmers vote Tory , they believe the Tories look after them , that’s why you have history of Tory in at the likes of Perthshire, Dumfrieshire
Thanks for that HDLG. It’s a hard life farming and sometimes making ends meet.
I’m also aware that depression can be associated with the profession, sometimes
worse. If I were being super critical I might say it smacks a little of I’m alright
Jack, whilst the rest of the country is falling apart. I’m not the one that’s in that
position though, and when you’ve got a family to feed sometimes the overall position
goes out the window. However, I’m a little more hopeful now that that the community
will realise that the Tories did the farmers no favours at all by pushing through Brexit
and then cost them dearly with poor trade deals and cutting the lifeblood of EU farming
payments. I think, hope, that farmers realise they have been sold a pup, which Ricci is
desperately trying to sell as a Crufts winner.Add the fishermen to that list , anyone exporting anything has been sold a steaming pile of shite
Sick of hearing the farming and fishing industries bleating on about how unfair everything is. They vote Tory/Brexit in droves, actions have consequences.
Farmers are protesting both inside and outside the EU, anyone would think the issue lies elsewhere. I thought our ‘sovereign’ government was supposed to fix it.
As for fishing, by far their biggest market is the EU. They voted to make it harder to export there.
Suck it up buttercups, you won.
I was lied to as well, difference is I was smart enough not to believe them.
If they want to admit their mistake, vote the Tories out and campaign for rejoining the Single Market etc then I’ll shout the message from the rooftops with them
I became quite politically active when my first child was born. I don’t want to leave the world and this country in such a state to my children and grandchildren and am in total despair about it, but feel increasingly helpless.
HDLG and Richard, you are both right, we were downright lied to. That was when I
became a card carrying member of the SNP, it’s the only way we (Scotland) have a
chance to get back into the EU. Some may say that there is no guarantee that Scotland
would be accepted back in, that’s not what has been filtered back to me.I don’t think Scotland will be able to run a vote for independence any time soon, so
the main priority at this point is ousting the Tories. Surely their “safe” borders
seats will be no more, as we say up here, their jackets will be on a Shoogly Peg.
Similarly, at the other end of the country on the east coast, and the Isles, they must
realise if they weren’t sold a pup, they certainly were sold a guppy.Moe, I feel for you and I have the same worries for my own family and the young ones.
As years go by, I don’t think that the new voters are liable to be budding Tory supporters.
I reckon they have had their day and will have to sit on the opposite side of the house
for a considerable time. I hope The Who got it right with “Won’t Be Fooled Again”I understand exactly how you feel Moehat. To think that in 2012 the London Olympics had just happened, a triumph of energy and imagination and organisation. Since then we’ve had the disaster of Brexit, the naked imperialism of Russia and China revealed, and the inexplicable rise of Donald Trump. And all these at a time when we face global challenges, like the extinction epidemic and climate change.
But for the sake of our children and grandchildren we can’t afford to despair, otherwise we hand on to them a degraded world.BigG you quote The Who song Won’t get fooled again. Well in that song right at the end is the line “Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. ” Which tickled me when I heard it, but it’s true.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.It’s a fair point Rummy, all we can do is hope for the best. Something has to change before this country is in ruins.
Maybe the local by election of Rochdale, which is my own town is a start. I didn’t vote for him by the way as I’m in the neighbouring constitute. Personally I think it’s a storm in a teacup, but it made Richi address the Nation last night.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.I am aware of George Galloway’s shortcomings but, in a world with a government I have nothing but contempt for and an Opposition Leader who makes Tony Blair look like a Marxist, as he scrambles for every Tory vote he can get, I found “Gorgeous George’s” interview with Sam Coates hilarious and refreshing.
He’s not wrong – millions despise the prime minister….and I’m one of them.
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