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I have returned to read many arguments which, while perhaps interesting, will surely have no bearing on the next Election.
Tony Blair didn’t “win” in 1997 – John Major lost.
And David Cameron didn’t “win” in 2010 – Gordon Brown lost.
Oppositions never win Elections – EVER – Governments lose them.
There is nothing even remotely inspiring about Keir Starmer.
If you’re a lefty he takes your vote for granted, while betraying you more by the week as he pursues every Tory vote he can get – eulogising about the achievements of Margaret Thatcher being the latest heresy.
And if you’re a Tory, no matter how much Starmer might pretend to be a One-Nation Conservative clone, he isn’t.
What he is is a dull, but steady, lawyer who has led a relatively blameless life.
More to the point he isn’t Boris Johnson, he isn’t Liz Truss, he isn’t Rishi Sunak and he isn’t Suella Braverman.
Not being any of those ghastly four people will get him the keys to No 10 for five years – ten if he wins a landslide.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I think what Starmer has achieved career wise in his life makes him pretty remarkable. To reach the heights that he did in law is pretty good for a start. My doctors son studied law but switched career when he realised that, without the right connections he wasn’t going to get anywhere. And, to get the Labour party to the united position that it’s currently in after the Corbyn years is pretty astounding, too.What people don’t seem to realise about him is that he’s pretty ruthless. Something you have to be in politics these days.
Well I spent the last 2 days at work listening to Boris at the covid committee , I’ll never get this idea that’s he’s a great orater, esp the first day I thought he struggled , a lot of ,not recalling or remembering tells its own story , Sunak next week …. expecting it go back to the Hancock ” it wasn’t my fault ” guff
Starmer has had 2 strong PMQs , Sunak is out of ideas and doesn’t know where the next knife is coming from
Johnson has been preparing for the covid enquiry for months. He didn’t answer a single question. As for his crocodile tears; words fail me. Hugo Keith gave him a much easier time than he did the others; was even laughing and joking with him at the end which, imo was an insult to the people that had lost friends and relatives.I don’t know who has paid for his legal advice this time. The taxpayer? He has his lifetime police protection, massive pension [thanks to Thatcher], his new mansion. He took so much time ‘not’ answering each question that some of the people representing the bereaved didn’t have time to get their other questions in.By the end of his answer I’d almost forgotten what he was talking about. And still some people are saying ‘poor Boris, it’s a witch hunt’ etc etc. He was far more coherent on the second day but that isn’t saying much. I struggled to stick with it the first day even though I’d resolved to watch it in it’s entirety. He said under oath that he didn’t remove the 2019/2020 what’s app messages. Does that mean that he couldn’t have got ‘someone else’ to remove them? I still don’t believe that they aren’t accessible. He opens his mouth, he lies.
Mone admitting her and hubby made a fortune from ppe but are being made scapegoats …. Give it back then surely
Only a few months until a General Election and the latest polling makes grim reading for Sunak.
Still, I expect he has a nice non-job or two lined up which which will pay him far more than he earns as Prime Minister, so I doubt he cares:
Labour wins both by-elections overnight, overturning Conservative majorities of 18k and 11k.
Prepare for the rightwing media to go into overdrive between now and the general election.
They’ve already started, The Mail was sat on that recording of the Rochdale candidate for months and conveniently released it too late for Labour to do anything about it.
I had a leaflet through the door for one of the local candidates yesterday. The front page doesn’t actually tell you what party he’s from. You do eventually find out that he’s a Conservative but you have to go looking.
When the party has been in power 14 years and the only thing its press lapdogs have is attacks on the opposition and even its own candidates are ashamed of representing them then you know things are desperate. The leaflet tells us about all this stuff that needs fixing, on whose watch was it broken I wonder?
Though admittedly maybe it’s partly because he tends to tell me what I want to hear (similar centre-left views) I found what Andrew Marr recently said about Keir Starmer interesting.
Marr considers Starmer a ruthless pragmatist, who tackles the issue at hand.
He reckons Starmer takes the view he can’t govern unless he wins and right now all Starmer is focussed on is winning and winning big and that he will say literally anything to secure a landslide.
Once in power and tasked with actually governing, Marr reckons Starmer will turn out far more radical than currently appears to be the case, definitely more radical than Blair ever was, and that the leftys currently haranguing him for selling out on everything from green energy to his position on Israel/Palestine might yet be pleasantly surprised.
One thing is for sure, not even the latter contentious issue seems to be detailing Starmer’s campaign thus far.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Kingswood, my old stomping ground.
They take no prisoners there.Another victory for the Stay-At-Home Party.
Labour actually attracted c6000 less votes than at the 2019 GE in Kingswood.I still favour a Lab/Lib Dem coalition after next GE. The national swing Labour require for outright maj, when the GE will likely attract c70% turnout, is larger than Blair’s 1st GE victory.
Just cant see it myself.Labour Party in power.
I’m at Cardiff airport for a flight to Barbados.
There are 8 flights out of here today.
Yep, just 8.
The Welsh govt own this airfield, i hesitate to call it an airport.
Losses in the £Ms.
Shambles.Peter Bone, the previous MP for Wellingborough, was deposed after a recall petition.
Conservative HQ: “I know. Let’s choose his girlfriend to be the new candidate. That should help us retain the seat…”
Lots of money for you to make on the betting market if you’re right, Wilts.
You vote Tory, you’re biased in your analysis, I vote Labour, I’m biased in my analysis, but objective people like John Curtice say the Tories have a mountain to climb.
Interestingly, what Curtice says will beat the Tories isn’t how Covid was handled, or even Partygate, it’s the Mini Budget under Truss which he likened to Black Friday under Major.
Bit tough on Sunak who specifically warned against it, but Curtice says governments never recover from fiscal events like that and I tend to agree with him.
It’s not about whether Starmer will be any better, it’s about who will win.
And regardless of what’s happening under Labour in Wales, I think Starmer will be the next PM.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Curtice’s analysis is ridiculously kind to Sunak.
He has failed to deliver on at least 4 of his 5 key pledges. He has lost 10 of the 11 by-elections since he became Prime Minister. Not a good look to blame it all on Truss.
When a party loses touch with its core vote, as it has done under Sunak and Hunt, it has no chance.
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