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Ready for Rishi? 2022-???? (There’s no telling with this lot)

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  • #1671468
    moehat
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    Not at home at the moment but back home I’ve got a newspaper cutting of a letter that Screaming Lord Sutch wrote to a newspaper. When I get home I’ll post it here. I’ve always rated the Loonies!

    #1671494
    Richard88
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    Murdoch Sun: Tax burden highest since WWII (albeit in tiny writing underneath a gushing headline).

    Murdoch Times: Hunt eases tax burden.

    Even the Mail begrudgingly admits the burden is still ‘vast’.

    And people still wonder why some of us despise these chancers. One is lying, one just about manages to get it right and one is misleading at best.

    The Telegraph wheels out Kwasi ‘Mini Budget’ Kwarteng as part of its ‘best comment and analysis’ :wacko:

    Little mention of course that the tax brackets remain unchanged so not quite the win for us workers they are trying to pretend it is.

    #1671509
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    “Rachel Reeves, Labour’s golden girl, doing her upmost to NOT explain exactly how Labour would grow the economy. They have a target of being No.1 on growth of ALL G7 economies by end of their 1st term.
    She couldnt explain how, what they’d do to achieve it; just prattled on about “we wont take chances with the public finances””.

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    It is a pledge they don’t want to explain, Wilts. Because obviously nobody knows what the rest of the G7 is going to be doing. So it does not make sense… Unless…

    It would only make sense if…
    Labour are going to renegotiate Brexit with the EU. Labour often say a much softer Brexit would’ve been far better for the UK economy… And therefore – LABOUR BELIEVE – the UK economy will grow enormously as a result of renegotiating.

    However, Labour do not want to talk about it because they do not want the electorate to know they’re planning to renegotiate Brexit by such a level… Knowing what Brexit did for Labour last time.

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    #1671510
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    There is loads of research showing that Remain would now win if there were a second referendum. A lot of people freely admit that they were wrong last time; there must be many others who won’t admit it to pollsters but would secretly change their vote once in the voting booth.

    #1671511
    Red Rum 77
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    We had a fair vote, but would it even be an issue if the vote went the other way.

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1671513
    Richard88
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    ‘We had a fair vote’

    Did we? Remind me which side broke electoral law.

    ‘but would it even be an issue if the vote went the other way’

    If anyone seriously believes that the Leave lot would have just shut up and said ‘fair enough, you win’ they are deluded. They got their way and many of them are whining about it saying we got ‘the wrong sort of Brexit’ so I think we can safely say they would have something to say if we we still in the EU. And that’s fine by the way, democracy is a process and not an event. We don’t just make decisions and leave it at that.

    ‘Labour often say a much softer Brexit would’ve been far better for the UK economy’

    They are quite obviously right (obviously not as good as staying but certainly better than what we have), ask anyone who imports and exports things. Sunak himself admitted that when he told the people of Northern Ireland how great it was for them to have full access to both the UK and EU markets.

    #1671518
    moehat
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    So, the Home Secretary has referenced to Stockton on Tees as a sh*****e. Interesting to see what the voters in Stockton South think of that now they’ve gone blue! Of course he now admits saying it after initially denying it ( thinking no one could prove he said it because the (useless) Speaker didn’t hear him). He now says he did say it but wasn’t referring to the place itself. I’m pretty well up on expletives and I know for a fact that you would only use that expletive when referring to a place. Wonder if we’ll be having yet another Home Secretary after this. Maybe Dorries could be given a title and offered the job or can you only do that with Foreign Secretaries?

    #1671520
    Avatar photoWilts
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    I voted Remain.
    But
    I was fairly comfortable with a Leave vote.
    Why?
    Because IMHO the UK would steer itself through the change period.
    I still believe this.

    The UK has avoided recession this year; the EU has not. In fact, the historically strongest economy in the EU, namely Germany, is in sh#t street.

    So, the narrative of a failed Brexit, Crashed Economy, blah, blah, peddled by the TV MSM, Campbell, Labour, Limp Dems and The Blob is absolute baloney.

    There is NO recession in the UK; the major economic issues are down to c£400bn covid/furlough spending, the Ukraine war, the energy issues.

    The TV MSM, aided by SM, has fuelled the Doom & Gloom narrative aimed at the incumbent HMG. And the Prols have ingested it.

    #1671522
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    Moe, this just proves what all know about what many of them think of ordinary people and the places in which they live. If he’s prepared to say that knowing there are microphones around, what are he and others saying in private?

    It’s an odd defence that he was only calling the MP in question ‘sh*t’ as if that’s somehow better. I’m fairly sure that if you publicly accused your colleagues of being bad at their jobs in most workplaces you’d find yourself in a large amount of hot water.

    #1671530
    moehat
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    I don’t think things are going all that swimmingly in this country. We’ve just lost 1400 jobs in Derby because of the HS2 cancellation. It might mean the end of train building in this country because they weren’t allowed get another contract which has now gone to Poland. There is another HS2 contract that starts in a few years time but, if Derby don’t fill the cancelled contract with something else the carriage works will go under. However, there’s so much other stuff going on that no one is bothered about those 1400 jobs, or the subsidiary companies that will suffer too.We fought to keep Bomardier going years ago, I just hope we can save it again now.Most of the people that persuaded the electorate to vote leave have either left politics eg Gisela Stuart (who told me that, if we left the EU, our energy prices would come down)or been proven to be liars eg Johnson. Was Bannon convicted of something in America? As for Cummings…just tell people queuing up to get stuff from food banks not to worry because ‘we aren’t in a recession’, or the people who’ve made a ‘lifestyle choice’ to sleep rough.

    #1671532
    moehat
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    ‘In August 2020, Bannon and three others were arrested on federal charges of conspiracy to commit mail fraud and money laundering in connection with the We Build the Wall fundraising campaign. According to the grand jury indictment, Bannon and the defendants promised that all contributions would go to building a U.S.–Mexico border wall, but instead enriched themselves. Bannon pleaded not guilty.[40] On January 20, 2021, on his last day in office, Trump pardoned Bannon, sparing him from a federal trial.[41][42] Federal pardons do not cover state offenses, and in September 2022, Bannon was charged in New York state court on counts of fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy in connection to the “We Build The Wall” campaign.[1][43]’
    …this is what happened to the Bannon. I knew he’s been involved in something untoward…

    #1671538
    Red Rum 77
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    Wilts I voted leave, but was prepared to accept the majority rule on this, and no what was written on a side of a bus didn’t influenced my decision either way. I just thought we were getting a raw deal from the EU. To be honest I thought it was a mistake joining in the first place as the French has no love for us and like to mess us around at every opportunity.

    The vote for leave was clearly underestimated or they would have put conditions in place like it has to have at least a two thirds majority (or something similar).

    Glad says “There is loads of research showing that Remain would now win if there were a second referendum. A lot of people freely admit that they were wrong last time; there must be many others who won’t admit it to pollsters but would secretly change their vote once in the voting booth.”

    Would it, before covid happened we had 2 elections were the vote could have been reserved but didn’t
    May nearly screwed thing up, but won with a reduced lead. Boris had one slogan “Get Brexit Done” and with that he won. This tells me that Brexit won’t have been reserved and any polls on the subject is misleading at best.

    People just don’t like change and that’s true of any subject in history.

    The HS2 cancellation was a huge mistake, but Rishi has put money into various cities in the north. Actually he hasn’t in Greater Manchester Andy Burnham is trying to get public transport intergrated like London Transport and doing a fine job that other Cities are looking to follow suit. As for the tories levelling up, well in the town/village where I live since September they putting in cycle lanes and upsetting business in my area (and still not finished).

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1671541
    Avatar photoWilts
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    After last night’s Peston, with Labour’s Golden Girl, not answering Qs and basically spouting fluff with no real proposed solution we now have another Labour rep doing the same thing on QT spouting fluff, no substance and getting absolutely mulleured by Isabel Oakshott.

    A government in waiting :whistle:
    Oh dear
    Will the last person to leave please turn the lights out :wacko:

    #1671542
    Red Rum 77
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    This sketch done in the 80’s is a perfect example of how politicans act.

    “Many a true word spoken in jest” as the saying goes.

    You've got to accentuate the positive.
    Eliminate the negative.
    Latch on to the affirmative.
    Don't mess with mister in between.

    #1671543
    moehat
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    What you mean is Oakshott was totally rude and just talked over everybody. The woman is as vile as Tice: I forget the name of his party because it changes so often.

    #1671549
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    “Would it, before covid happened we had 2 elections were the vote could have been reserved but didn’t”

    A general election is not a referendum on a single subject.

    #1671550
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Cleverly clearly showing the lack of any talent in the cabinet ….

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