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I reckon this week the final nail was hammered into Johnson’s political career , he can’t come back after this
Indeed. See this letter sent to my local rag, the York Press, for confirmation:
I READ Peter Rickaby’s letter suggesting that no one was worthy of the keys to No 10.
What about Jacob Rees Mogg?
A common sense and truth speaking politician.
His business interests shouldn’t and wouldn’t cloud his judgement.Strewth
What an odious character Suella Braverman is. She’s now accusing the police of double standards in the way they approach leftwing and rightwing protests.
Not just odious but dangerous. She is not fit to hold public office.
Aided and abetted by the press, there has been a clear attempt to whip up hatred and incite civil unrest. It could seriously kick off this weekend I think. I am no great fan of the Met but I know who will be responsible and it isn’t them.
Has anything been said by the usual suspects about the National Front march to the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday itself? The silence speaks volumes.
Bravermann doesn’t care about the Cenotaph, just her leadership campaign; more red meat for the Tory faithful when Sunak gets kicked out after the next GE.
If there is trouble on the Palestinian march, then it could be argued as proving Bravermann right… And the Tory Right will see it that way.
However, Richard is also correct in that what she’s said can incite…
She’s going against her own Prime Minister,..
Often controversial for controversial’s sake, with half (or quarter) truths meant to convince the Tory Right.
Am convinced she’s saying these things deliberately. Easier then to portray herself as the Tory Right’s champion and therefore supposedly the next Conservative leader when they (we) lose the next election.
Sacking is what she actually wants but even so, she has to go…
The Tory right – Johnson, Mogg and co – want to blame the Tory Centre (Rishi) for an election defeat, whereas it’s the Tory Right – Johnson and Truss -‘s fault.
If / when Labour get in, I hope Rishi can hold on to the Conservative leader’s job – unless Rory Stewart wants to return!
Value Is EverythingIt shows how weak a position Sunak is in that he can’t sack her …. She,s an odious creature
Good post Ginger, agreed on just about all of it (is the apocalypse coming..?
)The Tories need a serious clearout to become electable again. The rhetoric that those furthest to the right of the party spout will play well with the membership (by no means all of it) but the wider country is on the whole disgusted by it. As you say Ginger, where are the moderate Stewart, Clarke et al types?
The Tories used to be an election winning machine like no other so quite why they have allowed themselves to drift this far rightwards is beyond me. By definition, most of us are moderately right or left of centre (Britain as a whole probably averages out slightly right of centre) and they’ve all been abandoned. It’s a big hole currently being filled by Labour whose first term is a free shot and they’ll probably be given another go after five years if things don’t go too badly.
“quite why they have allowed themselves to drift this far rightwards is beyond me”
Farage and Brexit.
Hopefully the electorate will do the clearout for us. Getting rid of the right wingers and keeping most of the moderates. Although most of the electorate may not know who the moderates are. Tory membership has always been their downfall, still thatcherite.
I don’t particularly blame the Tories for the economic situation other than Truss made it worse. Johnson made mistakes with Covid, but it was an unprecedented epidemic and did make some good decisions. Am grateful we didn’t have Corbyn in place, both over covid and in particular over Ukraine / Russia. Corbynomics would’ve been worse than Trussenomics too. For me, Johnson’s big problem were sleaze and Cummins.
I am still not against Brexit but two of the reasons I voted Remain were having it when the economic situation wasn’t good anyway. Always going to be a difficult transition. And couldn’t see how Northern Ireland would be included. To be fair, Rishi did a bloody good job in solving the latter, only for the Unionists to put the kybosh on that. Covid and then Ukraine on top of Brexit was bound to bring about an economic downturn. Just as Labour wasn’t at fault for the banks disaster. (although they could have saved more money for a rainy day when things were booming). When Conservatives (or rather the coalition) came to power there was a note from the Labour man at the treasury saying “no money left”… And the world economy has never got back to what it was before the banking crash.
Labour seem to be saying they’re going to spend exactly the same as Rishi. Yet they’re apparently going to grow the economy like it’s never grown before. Does not add up unless they’re just relying on a worldwide economic upturn… Which tbh will probably happen… but what if it goes on longer than expected?… If Ukraine and Gaza are settled or going to be settled then the economic situation will in all probability get a lot better than it will be at election time. Therefore Labour will go on to win several general elections. However, Labour has already promised to bring about a Britain with better economic figures than the whole of Europe. We’ve got Ukraine and Gaza now, if they don’t get any better and things get worse worldwide… Iran? Korea? China / Taiwan? Labour’s promises may yet come back to haunt them. If so one term is very possible for Labour.
Value Is EverythingThe treasury note was a joke. Something that they used to do. It was only Cameron that actually waved the note around on television whilst knowing it was a joke. I can’t think of a single thing that Johnson got right. Even Cummings said they used him to get re elected but planned to get rid of him asap.They were talking about Braverman on TRIP’s and said what an enigma she is. Used to do charity work with Cherie Blair. An Erasmus student who supported Brexit thereby taking away the opportunity for others to take part in the scheme. Supposedly, unlike Patel, she’s really nice to work for. And she’s a Buddhist. Sunak needed her support to become PM so he owes her one. Interesting interview with Baroness Warsey who is horrified by what the Conservatives have turned into.
When Sunak and Hunt took over it was like suddenly having adults in the room, but perhaps its more that Johnson and especially Truss were so overtly unfit for high office.
The Tories need to cease being afraid of their right-wing, and their membership needs to become. more moderate,Bloody hell, I find myself agreeing with Richard and befair.
Am I turning socialist?
Value Is EverythingYes, the note from Labour was a “joke”, of sorts Moehat. But a joke with a lot of truth in it, otherwise it wouldn’t have been a joke at all. ie If there was plenty of money left and he’d said “no money left” it would just be daft. Besides, we all knew it was true at the time.
Not sure you can say “even Cummings” anything when it comes to Johnson tbh. He hates Johnson so much now… I would not believe anything he says against his old boss. The fact it took so long for the Conservatives to – one by one – vote to remove him… proves him wrong anyway.
With Erasmus, arguably it was the EU that stopped Britain taking part.
Value Is EverythingHopefully the electorate will do the clearout for us. Getting rid of the right wingers and keeping most of the moderates. Although most of the electorate may not know who the moderates are
It’s widely acknowledged that at general elections very little notice is taken of by the electorate regarding the calibre of their local MP, be that popularity, constituency diligence or where they sit on the political spectrum. If one – in the case of the next GE -is a moderate right-of-centre Conservative they will in all likelihood get stuffed along with all the rabid-right weirdos
Partly, as you say, because many locals are not particularly aware of the beliefs of their MP but mainly because the whole cohort are tarred with the same brush and held collectively responsible for the state of the country
I sincerely hope they get a damn good thrashing at the next GE, not that I’m overly enthusiastic about Labour but really…this shockingly bad government and parliament must go, hopefully not later than next May
As for forecasting how many elections Labour will win after the putative landslide at the next, I think that’s for the birds. After Johnson got his 80 majority in 2019 many a wiseacre was rattling on about the Tories being safe in government for the rest of the decade
The most interesting aspect of the next election will, in my view, be where the biggest revolt will come from: the ‘red wall’ ‘blue wall’ or Scotland, or perhaps all three
Still, if a week is a long time in politics, May or October 2024 are an eternity
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