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  • #58095
    Avatar photoCav
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    Hurdles since 2000 – 12238 races and 135621 runners<br>Chases since 2000 – 9939 races and 83057 runners

    #58097
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    Quote: from Cavelino Rampante on 12:39 pm on May 16, 2007[br]By month of race….

    month of raceCount<br>1-45<br>2-44<br>3-82<br>4-43<br>5-47<br>6-34<br>7-23<br>8-30<br>9-25<br>10-35<br>11-41<br>12-33<br>TOTAL-482

    Any chance of adding number of races and/or runners per month to those stats CR? May go a little further towards answering Zorro’s question concerning summer jumping attrition rates.

    #58098
    Friggo
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    Quote: from Venusian on 7:03 pm on May 16, 2007[br]Friggo, there are more hurdle races than chases and hurdle races have, on average, more runners than chases. CR’s figures are meaningless unless these factors are taken into account.<br>

    I would have thought so in terms of the races, although not by all that many. There have been some stats since to show this difference. I didn’t factor in hurdle races generally having more runners though, which was a bit silly.

    And MM, the line AA use is ‘300 horses RACED TO DEATH each year’. That claim would suggest that 300 a year die as a direct result of racing, which these figures prove to be woefully wrong.

    #58099
    Leemac
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    Hello all… as one of the Racing Post close-up comment team of racereaders, we – along with all the press – are provided with a list of official "explanations" following each race – eg horse hung left, was never travelling, unsuited by the going or course, bled, gurgled, was lame etc. <br>However, when a horse dies, it doesn’t come under the heading of official explanations, so we don’t always get to hear about it.<br>If a horse has a bad fall, or pulls up suddenly, I always put in a check call to the clerk of the scales to see if the worst has happened. The problem comes when a horse either pulls up with no apparent injury or, say, collapses after the race.<br>Coincidentally, I have made a few inquiries recently about whether it might be possible for the press to be informed on all occasions. The obvious downside would be the negative publicity it might create and, while I am very supportive of the view that bad news should not be swept under the carpet, it is understandable that some people might argue that it could be used negatively against the racing industry.<br>However, I must stress that there is no attempt to hide the facts by anyone involved, and will continue to discuss the matter with my colleagues and the racing authorities, particularly now TRF has taken such an interest in the matter.<br>Will keep you all updated!<br>Lee McKenzie

    #58102
    ToneLoc
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    Thanks Lee

    I have never thought that racing was trying to sweep this issue under the carpet, although your post does raise an interesting point…

    Quote: from Leemac on 8:17 am on May 17, 2007[br]we – along with all the press – are provided with a list of official "explanations" following each race – eg horse hung left, was never travelling, unsuited by the going or course, bled, gurgled, was lame etc. <br>However, when a horse dies, it doesn’t come under the heading of official explanations, so we don’t always get to hear about it.<br>

    It seems that there is an official explanantion for pretty much any problem that a horse may have during a race, but if a horse dies the hymn sheet is blank.

    Is the death of a horse such a taboo subject that there is no official explanation?

    There is a demand (as this thread has illustrated) among racing enthusiasts to be informed about the fate of the horses in our sport. The racing post, as the sole daily publication aimed at this group, should cater for this.

    #58103
    Leemac
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    Hi ToneLoc…

    At the big three-day events, there is always a full written explanation, posted in the media centre, of any serious injury suffered during the cross-country – along with any additional information about veterinary treatment etc. Thanks to media agencies like Racenews, the same tends to be true nowadays at the major Festival-style race meetings, but the info you’re looking for is not provided as a matter of course on a daily basis.

    However, I’m sure the racing authorities would be prepared to consider the idea of keeping the press informed on this subject, so give me a few weeks to get things moving!

    Lee

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    Quote: from ToneLoc on 10:21 am on May 17, 2007[br]It seems that there is an official explanantion for pretty much any problem that a horse may have during a race, but if a horse dies the hymn sheet is blank. Blunt but true.

    Is the death of a horse such a taboo subject that there is no official explanation?

    There is no need for an official explanation as being dead is unlikely to affect future performance.

    #58106
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    Here are the total runners for summer jumping for each code with the figures from all races since 01-01-2000 to date

    month of race-race type-Count<br>5-HDL-13055<br>6-HDL-6906<br>7-HDL-5115<br>8-HDL-5583<br>9-HDL-5047<br>Total-HDL-35706

    <br>month of race-race type-Count<br>5-CHS-10087<br>6-CHS-3866<br>7-CHS-2823<br>8-CHS-2538<br>9-CHS-2140<br>Total-21454<br>

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