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Who on here subscribes to the racing post website? I’ve been thinking about it due to wanting to be able to watch all UK races to help with my betting. Am I right in thinking if you join you can watch pretty much ever race over the past few years?
Ben you can source every race you need to see without forking out a penny by simply joining ‘ATR’ for whatever they cover and logging on to ‘Sporting Life’.So long as you have a Skybet account all you need to do is log in via sporting life and watch away,thats what I do if I need to source a specific horses history anyway. I also like to record all the Big race form and store it for reference via Sky TV.
Trainers quotes is probably the only thing I cant access on the RP website but I never listen to a word they say anyway!!Oh perfect that sounds essy enough I’ll get onto doing that now, will save me from spending a couple of hundred quid a year on the RP!
The only time I listen to the trainers is when they do a pre-festival tour of their stables, only done it once but it must have been around this time last year, can’t remember which channel it was on but it was on youtube and Paul Nichols was walking around his stables giving a run through of all his horses and what he thought of them and which races he was considering entering them to for the 2012 Cheltenham festival, he actually threw a few good tips in there and you can always tell when he’s confident about a horse which is especially good when they have big odds.
As I don’t have any of the racing channels on tv I have to watch the live UK races here – http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/164814/ … races.html (nice finish in the last race Storm Runner had a quick turn of foot!)
can’t complain though it’s better than having to spend £1 like you do on paddypower lol
APK is absolutely right but I find that using multiple websites is a bit messy; obviously the Post’s site has all the races in one simple display. I also use the race analysis all the time so I consider it worth the price at £24 a month.
I’d definitely try APK’s suggestions first and see how you get on. It’s all personal preference really.
Mike
You cannot open the pedigree tab on a horses own page unless you subscribe. Also whilst you can access the sire page from Weatherbys by clicking on the sire, the dam’s information is restricted to members.
Similarly "sales" "relatives" and "statistics" relating to a given horse are restriced to members.
Also the past winners of a given race is members only information.
If you try searching for the past runnings of a race from the "results" tab (you can go back to 1988)on the home page you will also find this is unavailable to non-members.
Finally the RP analysis of a specific race is not available.
Whilst this information is not essential for successful punting, I personally regard it as a cheap source of detailed information not only for punting but for obtaining an historical persepctive on a given horse or race.
I don’t mean to sound like an RP advert, and I honestly have no connection with them, however referring to "£200 per annum" sounds expensive, whereas "42p per day" (based on my motnhly sub of £13 – I dont pay for the tips) gives you a different persepctive (it wouldnt buy you a can of coke in most shops).
Is it essential to make money betting? I would say it contains the bare minimum information required to make a decent fist of winning at this game. By comparison Raceform Update costs £72 per month so the RP is a more affordable alternative (the key difference Raceform Update allows you to query a database.
Obviously Timeform is an alternative source of excellent data, but costs £70 for a 28 day "raceday pass". So once again this is beyond what most people can afford (or probably more accurately their wive’s will allow them to spend on research!!!).
I suppose the thing to do is follow TAPK’s advice (he clearly has the winning habit) and see if you can make it pay using the free information sources. If that doesn’t work then maybe you need to consider supporting your own knowledge with premium rate information.
Good luck.
(btw although they do not always see eye to eye you could do a lot worse than contact Gingertipster for an opinion).
You cannot open the pedigree tab on a horses own page unless you subscribe. Also whilst you can access the sire page from Weatherbys by clicking on the sire, the dam’s information is restricted to members.
Similarly "sales" "relatives" and "statistics" relating to a given horse are restriced to members.
Not true. Dams sales are there.
RUK too have a free race-replay archive comprising every meeting they’ve covered since January 2009
Click LOGIN top right, register with them, and once done scroll down the left hand menu to WATCH ONLINE and select Race Replays
Along with ATR’s archive, a terrific resource
You cannot open the pedigree tab on a horses own page unless you subscribe. Also whilst you can access the sire page from Weatherbys by clicking on the sire, the dam’s information is restricted to members.
Similarly "sales" "relatives" and "statistics" relating to a given horse are restriced to members.
Not true. Dams sales are there.
I have just randomly selected Horse No.1 in this afternoon’s 4.15 at Limerick, and clicked on the link to her dam. Making sure I was logged out it returned this:
http://bloodstock.racingpost.com/dam/da … _relatives
In any case I was specifically referring to the sales tab on the runner’s personal page, as often the sales price (of the runner) can give one a clue as to how highly regarded an unexposed/unraced runner may be – especially in bumpers for instance.
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_ … orse_sales
Granted you can search a dam and quickly establish how much her progency have fetched at the sales:
Thanks a lot for the responses guys, think I’m going to go with the free ATR and RacingUK options for now and see how much monies I can make over the end of the jumps season through to the end of the flat season and if I don’t see a rise in profit’s then I’ll try out subscribing to the racingpost. I’ve gotten by so far just using the basic racing post site for looking up horses records but there’s only so much a result can tell you.
An example of the sites text commentary
Sunrise Dance goes on
Crimson Queen lies secondfinal furlong
Holy Angel drawing clear
Russian Bullet third
Holy Angel doing this readily, wins under a good rideOnly several lines for the whole race, the fav and winner not mentioned til the run in.
It’s the same with 3 mile chases. There was one recently with 7 lines describing the whole race and the winning horse not mentioned until it had won
The Racing Post isn’t worth the price of a cup of tea.
I had the unfortunate mistake of signing up to the iPad application but you need to fork out again for another membership to access the website database.
It’s a rich mans mans website.
It’s a rich mans mans website.
I am anything but a rich man!!!! At £13 per month (43p per day)I wouldn’t say its extortionate but having said that I tend to get the paper copy free most days through friends so I suppose I am not having to fork out £2 a day on top. I would say Raceform Interactive is more the "well off person’s" tool, but it remains my ambition to subscribe to that one day.
I am anything but a rich man!!!! At £13 per month (43p per day)I wouldn’t say its extortionate
Everything looks nicer when it’s interpreted in relative day terms, it’s a clever marketing technique to draw you into purchasing the product when at the end of the day I’m paying for it on monthly terms not daily terms so it’s irrelevant and false marketing.
I subscribe but use it only at weekends and festivals (bet they’ll never introduce a special sub for those like me!).
I find the post-race analysis useful, the Spotlights very good and I use the quotes section a fair bit. 90% of the content there is useless, but I’ve picked up the odd nugget. Many of the quotes are immediate post-race ones and I find them much more useful than ‘normal’ trainer comments as, often in the heat of victory/defeat, they give a more frank appraisal of the performance or comment on future targets.
RP has one major failing imo, they do not provide a ‘character’ summary for each horse (Timeform do).
I am anything but a rich man!!!! At £13 per month (43p per day)I wouldn’t say its extortionate
Everything looks nicer when it’s interpreted in relative day terms, it’s a clever marketing technique to draw you into purchasing the product when at the end of the day I’m paying for it on monthly terms not daily terms so it’s irrelevant and false marketing.
But equally one can enhance the imapct of a cost in order to deter people from buying something. My missus does this all the time – look what we could do with the £20 spent on RUK or the £13 on RP – I respond by saying what else can you get for £1.08 per day – certainly sweet f.a. in the lunch counter at Tesco’s for instance!
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