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Haven’t read a copy of this in years but we were at the Supermarket today when I spotted a copy and slipped it into Mrs CH’s basket
You’ll love Mark Nelson’s speed ratings, (Page9) if I could get him as a punter I’d apply for a Bookie’s license!!!
Top 20 Hurdlers
1st Celestial Halo 82Other weird ratings
Jt 4th Big Bucks 77
Jt 4th Zaynar 77
Jt 8th Lough Derg 74
Jt 8th Dunguib 74
14th Muirhead 70
Jt 16th Menorah 69
Jt 16th Souffleur 69
Jt 16th Go Native 69The day Lough Derg beats Dunguib at levels I’ll feed myself to The Loch Ness Monster
I’m going to have to buy next weeks issue to find out if Quewetwo is now the highest rated hurdler in training
Comic or newspaper???
The guy who writes it must smoke a lot of spliffs, and the people who buy it regularly must smoke a lot more than he does !
Do you know how speed ratings are arrived at?
I imagine by subscribing to Marks Masterlist, telephone number supplied in the rag……I can hardly wait but I imagine the phone lines will be blocked with hundreds punters anxious to join his tipping service
Only one person on this thread looking daft, and it aint Mark Nelson.
Is David Johnson your posting name, Mr Nelson?
Only one person on this thread looking daft, and it aint Mark Nelson.
Is David Johnson your posting name, Mr Nelson?
Oh dear.
I will try a different tack. Do you know what calculations are made in order for someone to come up with a speed rating or similar?
I will try a different tack. Do you know what calculations are made in order for someone to come up with a speed rating or similar?
Sorry Prufrock, there’s no explaination in the article
Prufrock, if you are talking generally and not about these particular ratings, I do know a couple of punters who use split times, they divide the race into sections, time these, then use their own calculations to convert these into ratings. The ones I know who do this spend an awful lot of timme on it and are not all that sucessful
Bob Dylan was probably thinking of different "times" when he sang "don’t criticise what you can’t understand".
Prufock, it suggests from your tone that you indirectly advocate these ratings that Lough Derg is better than Dunguib and Go Native? I’m with CS, load of tosh and I rarely look at speed ratings when formulating possible bets.
Prufock, it suggests from your tone that you indirectly advocate these ratings that Lough Derg is better than Dunguib and Go Native?
How on Earth can you come to that conclusion?!
What’s the purpose of those ratings?
As far as I can make out they’re about as useful as a Chocolate Tea-Pot….
What’s the purpose of those ratings?
As far as I can make out they’re about as useful as a Chocolate Tea-Pot….
At least a chocolate tea pot would leave a pleasant taste in the mouth after having been used.
I fear anyone who uses these ratings will have a very bitter taste in their mouth.What suprises me more than the rating is the fact they passed the editor’s gaze.
How hard must it be to get a job on that rag?
The chase ratings are better but it doesn’t take a genius to rate Denman and Kauto Star as joint top (94) and Master Minded 3rd (87) but I can’t see Scotsirish (8th at 77) beating either of the joint 14ths, Tranquil Sea or Monet’s Garden (74) for instance
Speed ratings, timefigures, or whatever you want to call them, are a measure of what the horse has done against the clock, not specifically against other horses.
If you wanted to argue that speed ratings are of limited use on their own I would agree with you. But there is no point in ridiculing the speed ratings themselves while betraying a complete ignorance of what they signify.
Speed ratings, timefigures, or whatever you want to call them, are a measure of what the horse has done against the clock, not specifically against other horses.
If you wanted to argue that speed ratings are of limited use on their own I would agree with you. But there is no point in ridiculing the speed ratings themselves while betraying a complete ignorance of what they signify.
I don’t care what they signify, stupidity I’d say if pressed, but any listing that rates Lough Derg and Dunguib as equals and considers Muirhead to be better than Go Native doesn’t need my help in ridiculing itself, it’s doing a grand job on it’s own
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