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    Anonymous
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    I see…..so if you ask for 16/1 the second word will be …. off ? :wink:

    #233814
    Irish Stamp
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    That would be the jist of it but I doubt they’d put it quite like that :wink:

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    Don’t Tell Mary is my selection.And it be intrested to see how the Hermitage runs tomorrow as that 2nd behind Don’t Tell Mary.

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    Blink, and you missed it.

    And all across the United States, trainers are forming a line to enter the 2YO races next year …

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    It equates to proven group form (albeit pretty weak) in a field chock full of maiden and listed winners Fist. She might not handle the track but AW form translates well to Royal Ascot and I see no reason why the same shouldn’t be true of dirt form.

    IMO Jealous Again is a great bet at 20/1 – she also worked well at River Downs before leaving for the UK so she’s plenty of experience of turf :)

    You don’t get many of them in a bag of coal. Don’t you be putting all those winnings on Hurricane Fly.

    Fortune favours the brave mate very well done.

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    Blink, and you missed it.

    And all across the United States, trainers are forming a line to enter the 2YO races next year …

    That was almost embarassing, so many horses talked up beforehand and the race is over in a few yards.

    Well done to those who took the gamble but if these results encourage multiple US entries betting turnover in the 2YO races will fall considerably.

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    Irish Stamp’s on sabbatical. 50/1 Summer Bird at 20/1 Jealous Again. Or perhaps he’s flying to America as we speak.

    #234738
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    Thanks guys – hope you were all on the US flying machine :)

    There’s only one way to beat them but telling our trainers would ruin it for everyone :wink:

    I wish I was on a sabbatical Zarkava – break till the Nunthorpe and the Breeders Cup :lol:

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    A fantastic performance – and how good a jockey is Johnny V. :D

    Stilvi, really, I hope they come over in droves. I mean, really. Royal Ascot benefits from international competition, as does racing itself.

    We’ll never get these prices again – not even tomorrow, I don’t think – but we can learn something from the States about pace, strategy and stalls behaviour. That way we can improve.

    And preparation too. Jealous was beautifully prepared, not turning a hair beforehand or after. All those people in the winners enclosure and she looked like she could go round again. I don’t pretend to understand horse psychology a jot, but that horse was trained to the minute. To the second. Adversity and competition can only make us stronger and some of our trainers need the education quite badly, as today proved.

    The quite depressing whingeing and bleating we heard from Beyer, Crist and others after last years Breeders cup is something we want to avoid here.

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    Stilvi, really, I hope they come over in droves. I mean, really. Royal Ascot benefits from international competition, as does racing itself.

    Not sure what you mean by ‘racing itself’.

    It would not be any good for your average punter and reducing turnover would not help anyone.

    I think it is also worth considering on soft ground they would probably be winning nothing. If that happened next year I suspect they would be heading back in their droves as well.

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    British horse racing Stilvi, can not only benefit from international competition, it can lead the way.

    To keep up with footie,golf, cricket, rugger and pap-paps, horse racing has to evolve to maintain – and engage – audience attention, and in a shrinking world. provincialism and local interest in the new millenium doesn’t really have a place when we consider this level.

    It works both ways too – look at Johnny Best* last year with Deposer and Square Eddie.

    Oh. And Strike the Tiger hacked up on soft ground before he came over here. Just mentioning.

    *Just in case you think I’m some form of bizarre Americaphile, I’ll be backing Diamond Johnny G tomorrow to beat Ward’s horse in the first as all the value has disappeared in the gold rush – and I also think Hannon’s horse is good enough to win that race too.

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    British horse racing Stilvi, can not only benefit from international competition, it can lead the way.

    To keep up with footie,golf, cricket, rugger and pap-paps, horse racing has to evolve to maintain – and engage – audience attention, and in a shrinking world. provincialism and local interest in the new millenium doesn’t really have a place when we consider this level.

    It works both ways too – look at Johnny Best* last year with Deposer and Square Eddie.

    Oh. And Strike the Tiger hacked up on soft ground before he came over here. Just mentioning.

    *Just in case you think I’m some form of bizarre Americaphile, I’ll be backing Diamond Johnny G tomorrow to beat Ward’s horse in the first as all the value has disappeared in the gold rush – and I also think Hannon’s horse is good enough to win that race too.

    First of all great credit to the trainer and connections to spot the opportunity and take full advantage. This was obviously at a much higher level but it had me thinking about Martin Pipe getting his horses super-fit and just blasting off in front. As I said it was almost embarassing how quickly the filly had her race won.

    Purely in terms of competition everyone wants to see all the best horses coming together but I think it is only fair to point out that there would be a downside to a multiple US challenge. This year you had a straight choice of one US horse against the home team I just wonder how many people would actually want to firstly sift through the US form and then decide whether the home team have any chance.

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    I think the forces of insularity are quite powerful over in the States, Stilvi, so I don’t think they’ll be swamping the races any time soon. You do have a point, though.

    Certainly, Wes Ward has added to one of the most absorbing Royal Ascot’s I can remember.

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