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- May 17, 2015 at 15:55 #1017151
This will be the target for Night of Thunder (and Toormore) according to Hannon. 6/1 NOT (Betway & Skybet) looks very good value to me
May 17, 2015 at 16:06 #1017152NOT was a stand out 12’s with Ladbrokes yesterday morning and I half thought about playing with the thinking being that if he wins the Lockinge he’ll be a lot shorter. I still think Toormore can progress past him, Hannon is adamant he’ll come on for the run yesterday as he doesn’t set the place alight at home on the gallops and is a heavier horse than NOT. Take the foreign horse’s into the equation Solow, Able Friend and Karakontie I think 6’s is about right and would rather have 12’s Toormore.
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May 17, 2015 at 19:23 #1017335I think even if he comes on, NOT won with 3 or 4lbs in hand yesterday. In 4 meetings, he’s always finished in front of Toormore.
NOT seems a shade more consistent too, his only unplaced effort when apparently not staying in the Eclipse.
May 17, 2015 at 19:39 #1017401I was on Toormore at 10/1 for the Lockinge and have done him for the Queen Anne at 12/1,if he got soft ground he’d beat the lot but on good or faster I’d still fear last years 2000 gns winner.
May 17, 2015 at 21:19 #1017562I’ll be checking out Solow in the Prix D’Dispahan on 24th May before getting confident about anything else.
Freddie Head’s horse absolutely slaughtered The Grey Gatsby when last seen and he looks a potentially strong contender for the very top. I took him at 7/2 for the Queen Anne and I’m hoping he can enhance his standing. Might Of Thunder and Toormore both emerged with credit but it was hardly a dominant show from either and you can argue who’ll come out of it best next time.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 24, 2015 at 14:20 #1065054If they send Solow to Royal Ascot for the Queen Anne, he’ll win it, it’s as simple as that.
I took 7/2 back in my gambling days and I’ll maybe get a few quid yet

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 25, 2015 at 10:09 #1067894I would strongly suggest taking the 2/1 with William Hill on Solow winning this race. He is a better horse this season and he’s versatile.
The trainer has said the Queen Anne is the target, so what can beat him?
With all due respect to the Lockinge it was hardly a dominant performance from Night Of Thunder and you can make a case both for him and against him moving forward. Solow is on a roll, his only defeat in his last ten starts coming when bizarrely tried at nearly two miles, in the race Tac De Boistron was due to run in yesterday.
Able Friend is second favourite and he’s a legend in Shatin but he’s an unkown quantity coming away from there to Ascot. All his wins are on good and mainly good to firm going. How would he cope with cut in the ground, away from Shatin?
Solow is there or thereabouts on ratings with Able Friend now in my mind and he’s not showing signs of stopping improving. His sire Singspeil only came good when he matured from a colt to a horse and the Head trained horse is looking very much in the same mould. If it rains it won’t bother him, he’s got extra stamina if required and he won in great style yesterday in ground that saw stable mate Queen’s Jewel set a record time in the Prix Saint-Alary.
Where is the negative to investing in Solow at 2/1? I can’t see one.
Sometimes in racing there is money lying in the street waiting to be picked up. This is a chance to get rich without drilling into a vault in Hatton Gardens.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 25, 2015 at 12:19 #1068396This looks a three “horse” race, all basically having similar chances. ie fair prices of 2/1 Solow, 2/1 Able Friend and 2/1 (combined) the rest. AF is 5/2 but don’t like getting involved with ante-post on International horses. Can’t see why Toormore is double the price of his stable companion, but with just one place spot to go for (if the two favs run to form) not an ante-post Each way type of race for me either.
Value Is EverythingMay 25, 2015 at 16:54 #1069252I would strongly suggest taking the 2/1 with William Hill on Solow winning this race. He is a better horse this season and he’s versatile.
The trainer has said the Queen Anne is the target, so what can beat him?
With all due respect to the Lockinge it was hardly a dominant performance from Night Of Thunder and you can make a case both for him and against him moving forward. Solow is on a roll, his only defeat in his last ten starts coming when bizarrely tried at nearly two miles, in the race Tac De Boistron was due to run in yesterday.
Able Friend is second favourite and he’s a legend in Shatin but he’s an unkown quantity coming away from there to Ascot. All his wins are on good and mainly good to firm going. How would he cope with cut in the ground, away from Shatin?
Solow is there or thereabouts on ratings with Able Friend now in my mind and he’s not showing signs of stopping improving. His sire Singspeil only came good when he matured from a colt to a horse and the Head trained horse is looking very much in the same mould. If it rains it won’t bother him, he’s got extra stamina if required and he won in great style yesterday in ground that saw stable mate Queen’s Jewel set a record time in the Prix Saint-Alary.
Where is the negative to investing in Solow at 2/1? I can’t see one.
Sometimes in racing there is money lying in the street waiting to be picked up. This is a chance to get rich without drilling into a vault in Hatton Gardens.

I’d rather take 12/1 e/w Toormore Steve,rather than the 2/1 about your horse.1/4 odds a place pays 2/1 too but I have the potential of a 12/1 winner to boot.I cant fault your horse mind.A straight mile should suit this fellow who’s probably a 9f specialist.Good luck with your 7/2 though.
May 25, 2015 at 22:24 #1070412<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stevecaution wrote:</div>
I would strongly suggest taking the 2/1 with William Hill on Solow winning this race. He is a better horse this season and he’s versatile.The trainer has said the Queen Anne is the target, so what can beat him?
With all due respect to the Lockinge it was hardly a dominant performance from Night Of Thunder and you can make a case both for him and against him moving forward. Solow is on a roll, his only defeat in his last ten starts coming when bizarrely tried at nearly two miles, in the race Tac De Boistron was due to run in yesterday.
Able Friend is second favourite and he’s a legend in Shatin but he’s an unkown quantity coming away from there to Ascot. All his wins are on good and mainly good to firm going. How would he cope with cut in the ground, away from Shatin?
Solow is there or thereabouts on ratings with Able Friend now in my mind and he’s not showing signs of stopping improving. His sire Singspeil only came good when he matured from a colt to a horse and the Head trained horse is looking very much in the same mould. If it rains it won’t bother him, he’s got extra stamina if required and he won in great style yesterday in ground that saw stable mate Queen’s Jewel set a record time in the Prix Saint-Alary.
Where is the negative to investing in Solow at 2/1? I can’t see one.
Sometimes in racing there is money lying in the street waiting to be picked up. This is a chance to get rich without drilling into a vault in Hatton Gardens.

I’d rather take 12/1 e/w Toormore Steve,rather than the 2/1 about your horse.1/4 odds a place pays 2/1 too but I have the potential of a 12/1 winner to boot.I cant fault your horse mind.A straight mile should suit this fellow who’s probably a 9f specialist.Good luck with your 7/2 though.
I just worry about Toormore placing though Gord. It’s not a certainty in my mind. There are only two places up for grabs after all.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 26, 2015 at 10:06 #1074434Fascinating contest . Of the Hannon pair , I favour Night Of Thunder.
Solow is a good horse ( ok ,I know… stating the obvious ) but I
have spotted something which may be a slight chink in the French colt’s armour, which I’ll keep
to my self , for the time being anyhow .Winner of the race ( or my idea of ) ; straight mile notwithstanding
will be …
Able Friend
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May 26, 2015 at 15:12 #1075160I
have spotted something which may be a slight chink in the French colt’s armour, which I’ll keep
to my self , for the time being anyhow .Not a lot of point in posting that really.
It reminds me of The Marx Brothers film A Day At The Races, where Chico tries to put Groucho off backing the favourite “Sun Up” and states that Sun Up only wins a lot of races because he comes in first.
As Grouch said then, I will say now:-
“Well, I don’t need them any better than first”
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
May 26, 2015 at 17:52 #1075631I cannot wait for this race and have been super impressed with Solow this year, but I will need to take a look at Able Friend, he isn’t just a hype horse, he has been trashing the opposition in group 1’s and I hope everything is sound for him to run.
Personally, I wouldn’t be confident in splitting the two at the moment, but I think there has to be question marks for Solow over a strong 8f.
The Hannon horses offer better value, but I’m not sure that the Lockinge was actually that strong a race, so I will probably oppose them. (NOT did win fairly comfortably though)
John Moore has trained many horses and has publicly stated that Able Friend is the best he has ever handled and he doesn’t just throw comments around like that.
The one thing that will sway it for me is the weather. If its good to firm then I think I’ll be backing Able Friend. No rush though, the prices aren’t going to change much in the next few weeks.June 11, 2015 at 14:23 #1102230Solow looks to have his best performances over 9f and for me it looks to be be because he takes a bit more time to to get into top gear. Whereas Able Friend has a quick turn of foot from what I can see of his races, but has he traveled well, will he handle a different track?
I hope its a strong pace, I think with Richard Hughes on Toormore he won’t wait around and probably be up the front forcing the pace. Night of Thunder looks best when he’s tucked in then makes smooth progress, so I think he’ll be the one at the front 1f out with Toormore, and we’ll see Able Friend and Solow closing rapidly and getting there with 100yards out.
I’m leaning towards Able Friend, I hope Joao Moreira doesn’t get him completely smothered up so he can’t find a gap and utilise the turn of foot.
June 11, 2015 at 15:30 #1102257Able Friend has been running times at Sha Tin faster than Epsom’s standards. Presumably Sha Tin is flat and Epsom’s are the fastest in this country.
I might spend the next few days trying to research times over there and, of course, there is the travel issue, but I suspect AF might be some 10lbs better than anything we have.
If I come with anything I’ll post it here.
June 11, 2015 at 16:14 #1102269Maurice and Dex, looking at the comments on his running he has won almost completely un extended in some of his group 1’s. If he is sound and the ground is fine I believe he is the winner here.
It’s my only ante post NAP of the week and his price is huge at 5/2.June 12, 2015 at 11:13 #1102785I’ve seen a couple of the videos now. I think the official comment of ‘unextended’ is stretching things a bit. ‘Comfortably’ would be my description.
I found a link to Simon Rowland’s (?) take on the meeting between him and Solow. It seems AF is the faster over 2f but S might edge it over 3f. He reckons if Solow makes it a test of stamina he might beat AF. Apparently there’s only 1lb between them [in AF’s favour] with Timeform.
I’m just glad we’ve got the two raiders to look forward to otherwise it’s a fairly ordinary G1.
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