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    Frenchy15
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    There are several unexposed potentials in the field, the trouble is when looking to try and take CM on, is that they all look better over further.

    Roseman – Was going to run over 10F at end of last season, but switched to 8 because the ground was heavy. An 8F heavy ground win doesn’t really point to a Queen Anne.
    Headman – Could be a G1 horse in the making, but not over 8F? Looks more likely to run on Weds I’d say
    Fox Chairman – All 3 of his races after debut over 10F, unless Andrew Balding has transformed him over the winter to an 8F horse, don’t necessarily see why he’s so short and suddenly a Queen Anne horse. Long time off as well. I think he’s short because Balding is on fire. I’d be interested to hear what AB has to say about him though.
    Lord North – Significantly improving, but another looking better over further, proved on Brig G run
    Skardu – Could do well this season, but a long time off now and flopped on his last run. Bit to find/prove on last seasons form now
    Mohaather – Out of Showcasing, I’m not sure a stiff mile is best suited. He could be one for all the big 7F races this season

    Then of the others…

    Billesdon Brook – I am never one to take fillies against the colts unless they are really good. IE Golikova in 2010, rated 130. Billesdon Brook is rated 116. I was against Laurens LY for the same reason and she’s miles better than BB
    Duke of Hazzard – 3/3 at Goodwood, probably tells its own story. Decent but short on form
    One Master – Had it all fall right Last season, but a strong mile at Ascot is not her strength and would probably get found out again here. Surged to the lead last year and the run flattened out over the distance. It rained before the race and the ground will probably be quicker than last year as well potentially which would be against her (need to watch the british forecast of course!)
    Mustashry – If there is market support I’d get interested, no reason to think he can’t put up a big performance if on LY form. Seems a little weak though and it’s putting me off currently. Ran badly in this lY, but could have been because he was primed for the Lockhinge and a bit over the top for the QA.
    Terebellum – Not sure will run here so soon after last run
    Turjoman – Behind Duke of H at Goodwood, too much to find
    Accidental Agent – Form nowhere near the 2018 run when he had a great prep race as well. Had his day now you’d think

    So that leaves Plumatic, whose moved to a trainer who won with Watch Me last year at 20/1. Interesting here as French horses can go under the radar a little bit. EW shout if back to decent form after injury layoffs and has had a prep run.

    The other is Space Traveller. LY Jersey winner, but on paper his bred for a mile, Dam out of Galileo and connections have always thought him a miler. He proved that with his Leopardstown win at the back end of last season. If he’s progressed again a bit more over the winter, with Ascot winning course form in the book and a pedigree that should suit a mile this season, I can see him running a big race to place.

    None of these to me, look anywhere near CM, whose in great form at home according to AOB and there is no reason to suggest he won’t run to his rating, which would win this.

    Space Traveller 16/1 EW
    Plumatic 25/1 EW
    Circus Maximus 8/1 Win Antipost

    #1490410
    Avatar photojackh1092
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    Re Terebellum Frenchy

    said: “Having spoken to Frankie (Dettori) about it this morning we’re probably leaning towards Terebellum in the Queen Anne.
    “She’s in great form since the Dahlia Stakes.
    “No (we weren’t using Newmarket as a prep for Ascot), but we were always playing with the idea. We were thinking Prince Of Wales’s Stakes initially, but the Queen Anne looks quite open at this stage.”

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    #1490412
    Frenchy15
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    Ah thanks for that Jack. Interesting, must have taken it well and they think she’ll run well then.

    She’s another that’s raced over 10F though, in fact all her races over 10F and shes rated 110. Massive step up here, but that is a strange move to run here, so they must think she has decent performance coming. Also why not run in the Duke of Cambridge? So just based on that not adding up at all, she could be worth a saver.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    skybet are giving cashback maximum £10.00 if 2nd 3rd or 4th
    bog does not apply

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    #1490542
    Mike007
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    Circus Maximus sets a good standard but gone for the Dettori horse 6-1 ew now that it has been confirmed.

    #1490560
    Avatar photojackh1092
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    Duke of Cambridge is a grade 2 and she’s a grade 2 winner already. Would carry a penalty and wouldn’t earn any better black type.
    Stiff 1 mile that’ll be run at a good pace you’d imagine.

    She’s 110 rated, gets the 3pound so has only 5pd on ratings to find if Circus runs to his best on seasonal reappearance? He probably will be fully ready of course, but 5 pound for a filly having run 5 times wouldn’t be a massive lot to find? Could still have plenty of improvement in her…

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    #1490561
    TheTinMan87
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    Just a quarter of the field are Group 1 winners (Mustashry, Accidental Agent, Circus Maximus and Billedson Brook) and only Mustashry rated above 120 which says a lot about what we already knew about the mile division and it has been the case for a few seasons now. I’m not surprised a few who probably are better over further are chancing their arm here rather than in the Prince Of Wales.

    Haven’t gone through the race properly yet but initial thoughts were that it was some statement of intent for Jim Crowley to pick Mohaather over Mustashry given what I’ve referred to above about the latters proven class level.

    It might sound mad but I could well see Escobar running a big race given the big field scenario would be more familiar to the big handicaps he tends to run well in and the stiff finish will suit him down to the ground if they get racing too soon and this race might not take a 120+ normal Group 1 level to win its been a bit lower the last two years. He wasn’t on a going day at Newmarket but the way the track was riding was never going to suit a horse like him and this will be much more up his street. Space Traveller is another I like along with the course form from last year and Plumatic has a very interesting profile.

    There is a real good mixture of horses who are operating close to their peak or might be slightly past it and others who have potential but at the same time need to show they can fulfil it.

    #1490562
    TheTinMan87
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    Just to add on Terebellum the Dahlia was very slowly run and they sprinted home (think it was 110%+ finishing sectional) so she isn’t short of speed I’m just not sure that race showed Queen Power to best effect and she didn’t have much else to beat for a Group 2.

    #1490587
    FinalFurlong91
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    Kicking myself

    Had £5 e/w on mohaather yesterday with skybet at 12/1

    Now I see they are money back first 4, so I miss out on a potential £28 if he wins and an extra place for money back

    Only backed him to make sure I qualified for the weekly free bet so could’ve waited :wacko:

    #1490595
    FinalFurlong91
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    Paddy giving away a £5 free bet on this

    #1490597
    Frenchy15
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    Wow that’s some gamble on Terebelluum , bit ridiculous if you ask me unless it’s all insider money . Awful result for the sport if she wins after the recent press

    #1490619
    Avatar photoVenture to Cognac
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    Nath, I’ll definitely be with Billesdon Brook here as well, think she’s got a solid EW chance, and I’ll hold out to see if I can get 20’s.

    #1490629
    Avatar photoKris
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    I think Mohaather is interesting here on what we saw of him last year, and I’ve decided to take 14-1. The Queen Anne is always a good race so I’ll stretch to 2, and I’ve went ew with Marie’s Diamond at 40-1

    #1490652
    Avatar photojackh1092
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    bit ridiculous if you ask me unless it’s all insider money .

    Why’s that Frenchy, on the figures she has little to find?

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    #1490669
    Avatar photoBen_Bernanke
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    Who was the last proper good miler? Kingman? The division has seemed pretty lacklustre to me for a few years now and I know some of you chaps are tremendous at picking these big priced group winners but for me these 1m Group 1s have been minefields in recent years.

    #1490672
    FinalFurlong91
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    Alpha Centauri was looking very good until the injury that ended her career at leopardstown

    #1490675
    Avatar photojackh1092
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    You are right Ben it’s been a division on the downgrade in recent years, but as you also say, that makes it a better betting heat! Having a superstar in a division makes betting on it a lot harder!

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