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I understand that visually these things can be deceiving but Queally’s all out assault on Twice Over in the closing stages of the BC Classic last night looked awful.His right arm resembled a windmill as he appeared to hit the horse 22-23 times in the final 18 seconds of the race.
Did he get a ban from the Santa Anita authorities? What would he have gotten for a similar offence in the UK?
Well said. The ride was an absolute disgrace. I’m not anti-whip but that was indefensible.
Not a pretty sight, it seems jockeys can do anything they want with the whip there apart from hit another horse, without repercussions.
This is why 99.9% of the time I have no time for complaints about jockeys use of the whip here, we have very good whip rules as well as horse friendly whips unlike elsewhere.I like Queally – a lot. Whenever I’m looking at horses to back and see his name alongside an animal, I feel a bit more confident.
However, that ‘ride’ was a savage assault. There were more blows landed, and with greater force, in the last 300 metres of the race than were registered in the 36 minutes of the Haye-Valuev fight last night. At one stage, from about the 250 metres mark, he ‘appears’ to hit the horse 7 times in less than 3 seconds.
A truly disgusting ride.
Agree entirely, a quite brutal exhibition of ‘jockeyship’ by Queally.
He would have got a very lengthy ban if he served up a thrashing like that here.
It very much took the gloss off what was otherwise a memorable race won in brilliant style by a great racemare.
It would appear that America has no whip rules as well as no drug rules.
Here’s the re-run, judge for yourselves… http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/horse/ … id=4633238
It was excessive, I agree, but contrast this ride with that of Midday’s the previous day.
Tom Queally is good young jockey and will get better.
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Yes I see where you’re all coming from but in America like another poster said you can get away with murder so why not use to that to your advantage in the biggest race in the world with that amount of money up for grabs.
The horse didn’t stop and finished a respectable 3rd, they are well looked after animals and he’ll recover from this fine so there really isn’t a problem.
Yes I see where you’re all coming from but in America like another poster said you can get away with murder so why not use to that to your advantage in the biggest race in the world with that amount of money up for grabs.
The horse didn’t stop and finished a respectable 3rd, they are well looked after animals and he’ll recover from this fine so there really isn’t a problem.
You really don’t get it, do you?
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Yes I see where you’re all coming from but in America like another poster said you can get away with murder so why not use to that to your advantage in the biggest race in the world with that amount of money up for grabs.
The horse didn’t stop and finished a respectable 3rd, they are well looked after animals and he’ll recover from this fine so there really isn’t a problem.
You really don’t get it, do you?
Enlighten me
Yes I see where you’re all coming from but in America like another poster said you can get away with murder so why not use to that to your advantage in the biggest race in the world with that amount of money up for grabs.
The horse didn’t stop and finished a respectable 3rd, they are well looked after animals and he’ll recover from this fine so there really isn’t a problem.
You really don’t get it, do you?
Enlighten me
I’d be wasting my time.
Why not look at the race video and see if you can work it out for yourself?
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I’d be wasting my time.
Why not look at the race video and see if you can work it out for yourself?
I watched it, can’t see what you’re getting at.
I think our whip rules are fair on both jockey and horse.
I assume the US whip rules are different to ours?
In much the same way we should respect their strict rules on interference, which have on a few occasion cost one of our challenegers a race he won on merit, we should also respect their whip rules and use them to our advantage.
Remember, a lot of time and effort went into preparing this horse and connections travelled over 5000 miles to compete in one of the most prestigious events in thoroughbred racing, worth a helluva lot of money and a race that could have a huge bearing on his stud career.
I could understand if Queally was, excuse the pun, flogging a dead horse, but the horse entered the stretch with a great chance, responding to pressure.
Connections are well-versed on the rules and regulations of US racing and I doubt they would have allowed their horse to run in such a competitve race if they were uncomfortable with what he could be subjected to.
Queally rode a wonderful race, mush like he did the day before on Midday. Some have questioned his jockeyship in the Classic, but what a great piece of riding to keep a straight-line and shut the door on Mike Smith and Zenyatta (a la Ryan Moore / Frankie in the Turf) in the stretch.
I’m sure all horses were examined after the race and if a fine horseman like Henry Cecil had no problem with the ride, there’s no reason to complain.
It’s not something I like to see, but thoroughbreds are hardended pros and I’m sure Twice Over will recover from his exertions.
Our MPs have used the same defence, Bosranic, in the recent expenses scandal: it was within the rules. Unfortunately for them they’ve failed to ask whether it was in fact right for them to claim what they did and how it would look. Queally’s misuse of the whip was shocking, even if it was within the American rules, and it looked terrible.
I’d be surprised, incidentally, if Cecil was in fact happy with the ride.
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I’d be surprised, incidentally, if Cecil was in fact happy with the ride.
Give him an email by clicking the contact me at the top, http://www.henrycecil.com/
Let us know how you get on, cheers.
I have only watched the race once and my initial reaction was that he had done extremely well to get the horse home in third. If he has hit the horse as suggested then I was wrong as for me the end doesn’t justify the means. Unfortunately, while the whip remains you are always going to get jockeys, whether it is Queally or someone else, who get carried away in the moment.
I used to like Tom but he has gone way down in my estimation after that ride. It seems if the rules say you can hit the horse as much as you want then that’s what he will do.
Mr Wilson, please start following Formula 1 – unlike horse racing there is no need for human compassion for the machine.
I think it looks harsh on the horse, however….If our jocks stick to UK whip rules out in the States where U.S jocks can use the whip more, we are at an instant disadvantage in some circumstances surley.
IF Tom Q had stuck to our rules out there and not hit the horse significantly less and come off the horse and said "Look, I should and could have won that but I didn’t hit the horse as much as I could have done, I am a man of principle and I stuck to out rules in the UK."
Now, he didn’t stick to our rules and looked like he was battering the horse AND it did not win. But had he not hit it so much he would never know.
Not sure if this makes sense but I’ll throw it in the mix….
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