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solwhit v hurricane fly champion hurdle by the looks of it , thought punjabi ran a cracker as well better surface will suit solwhit more than punjabi in my eyes.
anyone else happy with there champion hurdle ante post bets after today?
Punjabi is easily the most solid of those three. Ran well in two Champion Hurdles, winning one of them. The other two have no Cheltenham form on the board.
Gutted about Zaarito! Am quite confident he would have got past Copper Bleu but at least showed a return to form. Even if he did get the last hurdle so so wrong!
On better ground and a stiffer track you would expect Punjabi to turn the tables. Bookmakers must be looking forward to a nice bonfire of Quevega Champion Hurdle tickets. At no stage did she ever look likely to win.
I’d say the Mares race again next year was always going to be the target no matter what she did today. The Hurricane is Willie’s Champion Hurdle horse!
I think you’re being a bit harsh on her though. You could say the same thing about Punjabi as a 5yo in the ’08 Cheltenham Champion Hurdle – at no stage did he ever look likely to win. Given natural improvement from 5 to 6 I see no reason why she couldn’t be competitive at Grade 1 level.
Great to see Sicknote Europe back in some sort of form again as well. It might be time to pop him over a fence next year maybe? Mikael D’Haguenet and Cousin Vinny are going to be two more to add to the prospective novice chasers for next season: Fiveforthree, Mikael D’Haguenet, Cousin Vinny, Apt Approach, Weapons Amnesty, Sizing Europe, China Rock and Pandorama to take each other on in the Drinmore next December?
I didn’t realise SE finished 4th as I was too busy watching the tremendous finish.
Hmm, guess ol’ SE will be worth another "hit me baby one more time" on better ground.
What a tough bugger that Punjabi is.
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The bonfire will be if WP doesn’t target her at the race Stilvi – which looks more likely now rather than any lack of ability on her part. She handles Cheltenham well, goes on the ground etc. she’ll be a short priced favourite for the Mares Hurdle at least even with Whiteoak in there.
How many ex-French do you want nrunning for you in the Champion Hurdle, Martin?
Quevega clearly needs further than 2m and Hurricane Fly has a killer turn of foot the same trip. The only thing that will need looked at if Mullins targets the mare at the Champion Hurdle, is his grey matter. He already has the winner warming a box in his yard, and the only danger is today’s winner.
I think you’re being a bit harsh on her though. You could say the same thing about Punjabi as a 5yo in the ’08 Cheltenham Champion Hurdle – at no stage did he ever look likely to win. Given natural improvement from 5 to 6 I see no reason why she couldn’t be competitive at Grade 1 level.
Somehow I don’t think we are comparing like with like. The Champion Hurdle is a totally different test to the Punchestown race and as I recall Punjabi wasn’t a well touted favourite. I doubt that she is ever going to develop the speed to successfully challenge the best over the minimum trip – there is also a possibility that she may already have peaked.
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What a fantastic race and what a tough horse Solwit is.
As I tried to point out in the CH2010 thread Quevega and Hurracne fly was a million years ago and no way on Gods earth does her defeat reflect on Hurrane Fly’s chances next March. The step up from a mares race to this level is huge and I think she’s ran a cracker aand perhaps evenbetter than she did at Cheltenham.
Turning for home I thought "Here we go Sizing Europe is back" but again he just stopped. I thinkit’s timeforme and everyone to realise whatever he did to his back at Cheltenham isn’t going away. He doesn’t do a tap in a finish and looing way back to when he sprinted past Big Zeb asanovice he simply isn’t the same horse. I suppose I will still worry when I see himin a race if having aet though.
It must be aid that the ground helped Solwit but this horse is much much better than I ever thought. I knew he was touch but today he showed class andwas always travelling well. I don’t think the ground would have helped him any more than the stiffness of Cheltenham will no matter the ground.
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Last day, and the Walsh/Mullins bandwagon looks likely to roll on with Mourad in the Champion 4yo Hurdle, though even money might be a bonus.
At a better price, Northern Alliance appeals in the 2m hdl (4.05). Showed he’s well up to this class with his 4th in the Guinness at Galway, and though sent chasing since, it’s those exploits – particularly his latest run in the Jewson – which show he may have more improvement in him at this kind of trip over timber. Course and ground hold no terrors for him either, and could round off a festival that’s seems to have favoured shorter priced horses much better than Cheltenham or Aintree, despite the slower ground?- Total Posts 17716
I took a quiclk look at the card today and it looks like they have gone a bridge too far withe the meeting. Has a distinct impression of a punters grave yard so no bet for me.
I really came back on to moan. Even at 8/11 (anyone know what the best price available was?) I would have had the kitchen sink on Mikael D’haguenet yesterday.
I made him a 1/4 shot at best and thought that was his best performance to date.
There was very little pace on, he jumped beatifully and when the race turned into a sprint, which would hardly suit him he found an enormous amount and Cousin Vinney who ran a cracker simpy couldn’t live with him.
You can shout all you want about Hurricane Fly but this is much better horse than him or any other young pretender around. He’s a superb jumper, has already proved he has the class to find bundles at the end of a strong run race and he also finds it in a slow run race.
There is nothing this horse can’t handle and I truly hope he goes for the RSA and not the Arkle or I have done my money on Crack Away Jack. Surely he must be a good thing for the RSA and areal danger to Kauto Star (if he is still around) in Gold Cup the following year.
Brilliant Brilliant horse!!
You can shout all you want about Hurricane Fly but this is much better horse than him or any other young pretender around!
Only a muppet would suggest he knows with absolute certainty, the level of both horses.
At 16-1 I think I’ll give Oscar Rebel another chance. I’m sure she looked not to be handling the ground at cheltenham, when beaten by quevega, and although the trip may be just a tad short, there appears to be plenty of cut and she looks a nice price.
Think Kaprun also looks overpriced in the 2.55 @ 18-1, Mourad wasnt too impressive at the death of the Triumph, and he is beatable, not 100% today will be that day, but this one looks fairly priced for an e/w if the pace is decent.
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You can shout all you want about Hurricane Fly but this is much better horse than him or any other young pretender around!
Only a muppet would suggest he knows with absolute certainty, the level of both horses.
I think I’ve pretty much proved myself on here spotting horses like Binocular 25/1 ew Zarkava 7/1 Kauto Star 7/1 5/1 Master Minded 11/4 6/4 Kicking King 25/1 ew Don’t Push IT Needs 3 miles etc etc for you to have the manners not to call me a Muppet Grassy.
I am saying the horse is a star of the future and he’s done more to prove that than Hurrcane Fly. If you don’t agree with that by all means say so and back it up withyour reasons but cut out the muppet shyte..
Both Mikael D’Haguenet and Hurricane Fly still have plenty to prove. They may go on to prove the doubters wrong but is really worth trading insults about?
Back to today. A little cheesed to have missed out on Voler La Vedette having backed her in her bumpers and at Fairyhouse. It didn’t look the greatest of rides by Walsh at Fairyhouse and in hindsight it looks even worse now. She is a pretty decent mare and this looks the right trip.
Brian O’Connell is one of best amateurs but I don’t think that was his finest hour on Agus A Vic. Not sure if he was worried about stamina but ridden two or three lengths closer to the pace he would have won.
Going back to earlier in week John Francome suggested on the Morning Line that it was idiotic to suggest the last fence blunder of Big Zeb had any bearing on the result. Judged on that interpretation he must be on another planet.
You can shout all you want about Hurricane Fly but this is much better horse than him or any other young pretender around!
Only a muppet would suggest he knows with absolute certainty, the level of both horses.
I think I’ve pretty much proved myself on here spotting horses like Binocular 25/1 ew Zarkava 7/1 Kauto Star 7/1 5/1 Master Minded 11/4 6/4 Kicking King 25/1 ew Don’t Push IT Needs 3 miles etc etc for you to have the manners not to call me a Muppet Grassy.
I am saying the horse is a star of the future and he’s done more to prove that than Hurrcane Fly. If you don’t agree with that by all means say so and back it up withyour reasons but cut out the muppet shyte..
If you insist, Fist.
You have suggested all season that Cousin Vinny is essentially a shi*te hurdler. You are now suggesting that Mikael D’Haguenet, despite being fully ridden-out to beat said Cousin Vinny yesterday evening, is definitely a better horse than Hurricane Fly.
I’ll be honest with you, I was a little bit disappointed with Mikael D’Haguenet yesterday. He had to work harder than I would have expected (the write-up he gets in the Racing Post is, frankly, a misleading joke), and anyone suggesting that yesterday’s effort
proves
more than Hurricane Fly did in either of his last two runs, is wrong.
IMVHO, of course.
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