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Pro punter in today’s Post scathing of the super7

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    % MAN
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    I was with a pro-punter the other week and he looked at playing the Super7.

    What he did was make his selections and from his perm of 108 lines he worked out (well he asked someone to work it out for him) the best and worse potential tissue acca and then decided if it was worth playing.

    Which strikes me as being a resonable approach.

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    Marble raises a serious point in relation to addiction and outreach workers.
    Whilst no-one wishes to see a forum member lose more than they can afford, at the expense of normal living and relationships, I have no doubt that some have become hooked to the point of crisis. Which makes me wonder whether the powers that be have ever considered the possibility of offering some form of anonymous section for those who might be considering seeking some form of help, or an unobtrusive supportive ‘health-type’ warning embedded in certain pages/adverts from sponsors?

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    dave jay
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    I don’t think you can win on any sort of pool betting .. these kind of bets are up there with the FOBT’s.

    Proper mug betting, IMO.
    8)

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    Pool betting is a chance to win a large sum from a small stake. But sometimes they are merely a way of having an interest in an afternoons racing when you have a day off!!

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    I was with a pro-punter the other week and he looked at playing the Super7.

    What he did was make his selections and from his perm of 108 lines he worked out (well he asked someone to work it out for him) the best and worse potential tissue acca and then decided if it was worth playing.

    Which strikes me as being a resonable approach.

    That’s what you have to do- no point in playing if the equivalent SP accum is likely to pay more. When there’s a decent carryover the Scoop 6 and Jackpot are often excellent value.

    Douginho- of course your one line doesn’t have the chance of winning of the syndicates, but it may offer better value than many of their 2 quid lines. The trouble is, doing one line, the odds are you’ll never win it in several lifetimes- you’d be better off playing the Jackpot to 10p units.

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    Firefox mentions the dream of winning the Eurolottery. I refuse to check my ‘lucky dip’ numbers for at least a few days. That way my £1.50 goes a lot further in living the dream and enjoying the prospect of spending all those millions. Okay, by the third or fourth day the bubble has burst but at least I’ve had the ‘high’ for a fair while. Before anyone suggests, no, I don’t make a pint last all night.

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    Marble raises a serious point in relation to addiction and outreach workers.

    Whilst no-one wishes to see a forum member lose more than they can afford, at the expense of normal living and relationships, I have no doubt that some have become hooked to the point of crisis.

    Anyone who feels they may need help can call Gamcare in complete confidence:

    0845 6000 133

    8am – Midnight (7 days a Week)

    #206729
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    I live the dream of winning the eurolottery too ken and the prospect of spending all those millions but for me it is never ending, never let down – this is because I don’t buy any lottery tickets so will never be disappointed by a losing one – it also puts me a good few quid up each year on practically everyone who does buy tickets – in fact, that makes me feel like a winner

    #206730
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    Hi Sberry,
    Will you still feel like a winner when I overtake you in the Daylight Comp. League (Group15) this coming weekend, I wonder? Relegation looms, I fear. Never mind, life goes on.
    cheers
    Ken

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    I don’t think you can win on any sort of pool betting .. these kind of bets are up there with the FOBT’s.

    Proper mug betting, IMO.
    8)

    That is a somewhat gereralistic comment Dave.

    One of my favourite bets, which I invariably do with the Tote, is the forecast and the Nanny payout easily beats the CSF more times than not.

    And yes I do make a profit on it – so if that makes me a mug punter I am, at least a happy mug punter.

    Also at big meetings like Royal Ascot, especially with horses over 16/1 the Tote nearly always gives a much better return , at times double the SP.

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    Maybe I am missing something here, but surely as doughino says, if you are part of a syndicate which has the financial clout to cover a large number of horses in each race then you are in a stronger position than me with my £2 single line?

    I think what you were missing the post immediately above yours.

    Syndicates only have financial clout up to a point; the notion that they can buy the pool has proven to be erroneous on many occasions. It is indeed a level playing field, and the small punter gets the same (or better) value for his individual stake as the big boys. His chance of winning each week is correspondingly smaller, but the risk/reward ratio is the crucial measurement.

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    Maybe I am missing something here, but surely as doughino says, if you are part of a syndicate which has the financial clout to cover a large number of horses in each race then you are in a stronger position than me with my £2 single line?

    I think what you were missing the post immediately above yours.

    Syndicates only have financial clout up to a point; the notion that they can buy the pool has proven to be erroneous on many occasions. It is indeed a level playing field, and the small punter gets the same (or better) value for his individual stake as the big boys. His chance of winning each week is correspondingly smaller, but the risk/reward ratio is the crucial measurement.

    I dont really think of my £2 line in terms of value. Just an afternoon of hopes and aspirations!

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    Out of interest do all of the syndicates pay the full £2.00 per line?

    If not, I don’t begrudge them not doing so but I wouldn’t call it a level playing field either. :?

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    Anyone can get 10% of a perm back from the likes of Blue Square regardless of bet size. One of the happy side-effects of having a syndicate is that from being a pariah who couldn’t get on with them a few years ago, all of a sudden I’m getting calls from the VIP manager asking why I didn’t play last week and if there’s anything they can do for me!

    #206945
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    The point is it’s very likely you’ll be winning their money.

    #206961
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    And if some £2 punter wins they will be branded lucky (That Haddock woman), and made to feel like it was all fortune over skill. When one of the syndicates win, its made out that they are very clever punters. Go figure! One has 1 selection per race, the other has many selections per race!

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    The point that is being missed is that if you DO win the Scoop6, you also win the enhanced pot that is there solely because the ‘big punters’ have played it. If your Finlays and Nevisons didn’t play it you’d be playing for tiny pots each week which would lead to even more bitching.

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