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- October 1, 2010 at 16:56 #320308
Is that a little ‘plunge’ going on with Cavalryman in the betting for Sunday? Must have been a couple of the tipsters on here, earlier this week, that’s caused it

I couldn’t resist a little e/w at 50s on Monday.
October 1, 2010 at 17:27 #320318Yes Wilts, all bookmakers keep an eye on my betting / tips thread.
Come on Frankie!Value Is EverythingOctober 1, 2010 at 17:38 #320322Yes Wilts, all bookmakers keep an eye on my betting / tips thread.
Come on Frankie!Just listened to ‘The Couch’ Winstanley on Racing Post and he’s tipped it as well. I’ve grabbed a few tips off that guy this year.
Hope you’re right GT, but i’ve also backed Youmzain at a couple of prices early doors – not sure if the draw has done him any favours though. May even be too soft for the old boy – he doesn’t mind a bit of give but what with the rain today (hit Longchamp as well, i believe) and more to come Sunday morn, i reckon it will be Heavy on Sunday.
October 1, 2010 at 17:41 #320323Ginger
Even just a quick glance at the course layout should show that the draw at Longchampdoes
matter!
I said "over-rated" Reet
, ie there is a draw advantage but not as large as some people believe. And with the first 5 in the market this year drawn below 10, I’d say it should matter even less this year.Value Is EverythingOctober 1, 2010 at 18:01 #320326
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……..and here’s me, thinking you were just spouting off about something else you hadn’t really a clue about.
October 1, 2010 at 20:11 #320350Suddenly, big boats who were likely to be outpaced in the stretch on better ground, such as Cavalryman, Timos, and Midas Touch may now be viable chances. I think they’d need quite a big break to beat the two main French hopes though.
Nakayama Festa ran that cracker behind Duncan in the prep race on soft and ran a decent 4th on yielding in Japan when not in the market (and coming off a poor run) a year and a half back, the ones who beat him home were all on the speed.
I always thought F&G needed some cut to win the Arc because of his lack of speed, so its intriguing that Aidan O’Brien doesn’t feel too happy about the rain.
Maybe this will suit Youmzain very well since he stays all day, though he was beaten several times on Soft in the 2 races before last year’s Arc by the likes of Getaway, Spanish Moon, Alpine Rose and Eastern Anthem…October 2, 2010 at 11:32 #320441
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Now before i come out with by big statement i would just like to let the 2 Girls blouses Chiswickian and Mr Wilson know i"m about to make a Kings speech,i dont want you pair to go weak at the knees.or even fall over and bruise your bottoms!
Just as low as I would expect from any self appointed Princess. Challenge a muppet and they’ll come out swinging like Miss Piggy every time. We all can’t wait to be bored to death by your next installment Your Lowliness.
We’re all sure you’ll find a way to have tipped the winner after the race even though Workforce is beaten out of sight.
October 2, 2010 at 11:48 #320444I’m on Youmzain at 20/1 (in my notebook
)However, looking at the race now trying to find the horse who’ll beat him
I keep coming back to Lope De Vega!If he reproduces his terrific defeat of Planteur it’s curtains for the rest. Have to be worried about his poor run behind Dick Turpin which was too bad to be true. Last time was better but still nowhere near his best.
Think I’ll have a win bet, because chances are he’ll win or be tailed off. At his best he’ll slaughter these
October 2, 2010 at 12:16 #320452
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Must admit he’s another one I thought wouldn’t run. I’ve been a Lope fan but cannot see him winning the Arc. The final entries tell me what I’ve been thinking all along. Connections believe its a wide open race and they might as well have a go.
I’m still no closer to a final decison but have already got a free antepost trade through Nakayama Festa. I hold a liability through Planteur that I could trade off but wont be. Not yet anyway.
October 2, 2010 at 15:15 #320481Got 3 for the race
Duncan-Did extremely well in france last time to beat some tough horses, maybe an e/w bet
Cavalryman-Seems to like France more than England, 4th in this last year so hoping for another big run
Sarafina-Purely cos I like the way this horse runs and also I think she could have a big run off bottom weight
October 2, 2010 at 15:34 #320483
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Got 3 for the race
Duncan-Did extremely well in france last time to beat some tough horses, maybe an e/w bet
Cavalryman-Seems to like France more than England, 4th in this last year so hoping for another big run
Sarafina-Purely cos I like the way this horse runs and also I think she could have a big run off bottom weight
Calvaryman was 3rd I think. Just edging Conduit.
I’m not gonna repeat who I think we win like many have for the umpteenth time, just that I’m really looking forward to it and hoping a horse from this side of the water does the business.
October 2, 2010 at 16:52 #320492Youre right bigphil, Sea The Stars 1st, Youmzain 2nd, Cavalryman 3rd and Conduit 4th. Still think he likes France more than England, England just hasnt suited him.
October 2, 2010 at 19:42 #320511Not got a very good draw, but, does anyone fancy Plumania? Thought I’d add her to my Cavalryman/Nakayama Festa bets. Win or lose, at least I won’t be an emotional wreck like I was last year.
October 2, 2010 at 23:07 #320545
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Given how well she finished behind Midday in the Vermeille,
Sarafina
looks to have as good a chance as any. She’s nicely bred, handles conditions, will stay the trip and is supposedly drawn well in stall 3.
Double-figure prices look a tad generous.
October 2, 2010 at 23:21 #320548I wish this year The Arc was ran in nice weather and the distance at 1m 3f cause Cape Blanco would win this as Cape Blanco was the horse I tipped for great things in his Classic geneartion, sadly he has nothing going for him tomorrow bar the jockey on board him his class I hope sees him out for a place.
I cant look past Workforce though, even with Harbingers awesome win it could pay to remind that Ryan Moore wanted to be on Workforce that day so surely he must be something special and just had a bad day at Ascot.
Yes his Derby win was against very drab opposition but his time suggests he is totally World Class and he has never beat Cape Blanco who routed a stellar G1 field at 1m2f and they have said look out for him on soft ground so its Workforce for me and F&G and Cape Blanco to follow him home, formlines say Workforce has Behkabad and Planteurs measure, we will see tomorrow.
Still want Cape Blanco to win though.
October 3, 2010 at 08:02 #320584It’ll be fascinating to see how workforce perfroms but at the prices it’s Cape Blanco for me.
October 3, 2010 at 09:54 #320597What evidence at all suggests Workforce will go on soft ground? 11/2? Should be 11/1.
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