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- October 1, 2020 at 10:46 #1504330
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October 1, 2020 at 10:47 #15043311 In Swoop
2 Raabiaah
3 Mogul
4 Sottass
5 Enable
6 Way To Paris
7 Persian KingOctober 1, 2020 at 10:47 #1504332Sottsass in 4, very happy with that.
Serpentine in the widest, in 15, but that actually might help him to get a lead and hopefully stay on to place from there. Unlikely winner though.
Sottsass has a great chance now if Enable bombs in the mud
October 1, 2020 at 10:48 #15043338 Royal Julius
9 Gold Trip
10 Sovereign
11 Japan
12 Deidre
13 Chacknak
14 Stradivarius
15 SerpentineShould be right
October 1, 2020 at 10:51 #1504335Bad luck if the draw hasn’t worked out for your selections. Personally I am more than happy with stall 5 and stall 1 for my two.
October 1, 2020 at 11:03 #1504338Nice draw for Sottsass. Not so much luck Stradivarious backers though, will be hard for him to get a nice position from that draw.
October 1, 2020 at 11:12 #1504339So sad we will not be able to see Love vs Enable. I was waiting for this clash for such a long time
October 1, 2020 at 12:53 #1504359Whilst im happy from a punting point if view that love isn’t running it is very dissapointed for the sport we won’t get to see the two mares clash
But I suppose with her action its not surprising she’s been taken out
October 1, 2020 at 13:25 #1504369Enable should be odds on. She has already beaten the likes of Scotsass et Al.
SHL
October 1, 2020 at 14:45 #1504376I’m happy with Persian King EW in draw 7 and as much as I will be celebrating a win for Enable it will also be history making for PK to follow in his Damsire’s hoofprints and win this, you can’t rule him out.
Jac
Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...October 1, 2020 at 15:10 #1504380So…to confirm Frenchy and Mike….Aidan decided against going in deep with Love. Probably a good call especially if ‘the lads’ were involved too!
All jokes aside, would love to see Enable win for the good of racing but personally im not sure she will get her deserved swansong. I backed her last year at 5/1 ante post and thought she was home and hosed. I eventually wiped those tears away and a few days after Arc 2019, I backed her for Arc 2020. Therefore im sitting on 15/2 but as mentioned, I really cant see her winning, as much as I would love (no pun intended) her to. Great draw but I feel others may handle the ground better and she is 6 now. I am not sure beating Sovereign, Japan, Prince of Arran et al will be good enough but only time will tell.
Personally I think it will be one of those races where you can run it 10 times and get multiple winners.
Good luck whoever everyone is backing.
Certainly starting to get excited now!
October 1, 2020 at 15:32 #1504384According to the Paddy Power website they have refunded all bets placed on Love for the Arc as free bets. Not much in the ts and cs so looks like all ante post and doesnt appear to be value driven.
*win singles I should have added
October 1, 2020 at 16:07 #1504392Right decision to take out Love. Why risk ruining her? I wonder if they will think about the Filly and Mare at Ascot if the ground is not too bad, although I suppose the Breeders Cup is more likely.
Happy with the draw for In Swoop but will still cheer on Enable. I hope she can do it but the ground has to be a concern.
October 1, 2020 at 17:00 #1504409Clints, as a counter argument, when you say “I am not sure beating Sovereign, Japan, Prince of Arran et al will be good enough”, the race you might want to note was her Sandown run. 80 % fit nor really trying that hard and 2 lengths behind a horse rated 126. The opposition not been up to much after but that isn’t her fault if no one worthy took her on. Japan aside that is perhaps, but he’s had problems with his feet since Sandown.
A repeat of her 2019 run and she will be tough to beat I think, the intrigue is of course we have to wait and find out whether she will run to that level.The ground I cant seeing bring a problem for Enable. Frankie when speaking about the challenge with Love (now a NR) he said “The ground is a very important factor, and Enable has already shown that she can handle it. It’s a big plus – a bit like the (7lb) filly’s allowance that Love will be receiving. I have spoken with my colleagues and racing analysts – they say that a heavy track could count against Love, because her low-to-the-ground, fast action is better suited to good ground.”
October 1, 2020 at 17:00 #1504410Longchamp officials say they are getting to the stage where there is holding or heavy ground. If it is heavy a lot of the draw bias will be gone.
October 1, 2020 at 17:05 #1504413Mike987 I made that argument but Frenchy put some stats up of past renewals which stated only the class horses in the race had overcome a double figure draw.
October 1, 2020 at 17:14 #1504417“The ground I cant seeing bring a problem for Enable.”
Agree with that, I thought they used the ground as an excuse last year but for me she still hadn’t recovered from the very hard race she had in the king George.
Crystal ocean didnt recover either getting beat in a subpar juddmonte not running anything like he had in the Prince of Wales or King George.
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