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Soft Light ran a cracker in 6th place though the front 4 pulled a long way clear of Magical in 5th.
Japan ran his race and was beaten fair and square though ran a decent race.
Ghaiyyath went out like a light as they turned for home to finish 10th beating just 2 of the Japanese horses home. That was not the real Ghaiyyath we saw today as I feared may well be the case but I had to stick with him.Correct to take the favourite on with win bets but out foxed by the master of the arc.
@TheTinMan87, I agree that I hope they don’t take her to America again. She doesn’t need to go there, and if they did, they’d only drug her again like last year which is unfair. Depending how she came out of today, it would be nice to see her on Champions Day, but only if she was 100%. Otherwise, I’d dearly love for her to stay in training and try again next year. If the ground was different next year, I still think she could make history.
Whatever they do though, it’s been fabulous to keep her around this long. Flat horses come and go too soon, and she has been brilliant for the sport and a horse that has rekindled interest in the flat for many, many people.
Enable trapped 3 wide early on drawn 10. Waldgiest drawn 3. Ignore the draw stat at your peril next year, 12 horses or not!
Very well done Mike and others on at 33s!
Got 4 of the first 5 home but won nothing!
I have already “recognise“d Applebly had a losing run in the latter stages of September. Pointing out that although hadn’t had winners the number of runner-ups (and the place strike rate being much better than usual) – and most of those runner-ups running to form (as Igor says) you don’t need to win in order to run to form) – some even improving. Going through those one by one and explaining their performances.
Can take the Canadian win out if you insist. Yes it is a fact about British wins. But why only allow British wins in your percentages? Wins in France, Germany and Ireland should imo be counted in win percentages if you’re trying to find out if a trainer is in form, particularly when judging a French race.
Hmmm.
You say “PINATUBO who is so superior he could win despite his stable form”. Strange one that. Pinatubo won that Group 1 race by 9 lengths; what most people believe one of the very best two year old performances we’ve ever seen! Are you really saying he could’ve done that with the stable in poor form? 
Value Is EverythingLovely performance from Waldgeist. Not a classic renewal but the value on offer was bizarre
I’ve seen some crap spouted in my time but Potato’s book and form views were something else.
Well done Kiseki, victors, Mike and co. Waldgeist did you proud.
Value Is EverythingCome to think of it, I should have waded in on Waldgeist. Each way steal and I’ve not backed it enough
I hope Enable runs at Ascot. Be nice to see her retire on a high
Well done Mike and all winners.
The ground beat the great mare. Waldgeist simply did not have the form to beat her under ‘normal’ circumstances – he was under pressure for a large part of the race, though I echo BH’s comment on a fine ride by the young jock who obviously felt he could get there when he switched to make sure he could get a run – very cool move.
BTW, Cracksman would have won that by a mile! :)
Maybe the course played a big part. She had issues last year but she was fit and everything went right for her from the ground, to the draw, to Sea Of Class being drawn wide and not getting a clear run. She paddled and got away with it but not this time. If this was run elsewhere on the same testing ground then maybe a different story.
Well done Mike you won the battle
Just about to watch my recording of the Arc meeting but already know my fate…well done to all others who backed Waldgeist.
Enable is one brave mare and there is no shame in defeat.
JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...She looked a bit edgey at the start something that in the last few races has been creeping in, she sweated up and looked hard work early on in the race… also looked like she and frankie thought they had it won once they beat off sottass and that took a bit of doing or sottass and enable did eachother in which looking at the sectionals they produced for the final 5f seems to indicate, sottass = 12.36, 12.87, 12.93, 12.54, 13.41 enable = 12.34, 12.90, 13.08, 12.37, 13.40.
She almost got caught like you say last year by SOC this year she did get caught…. Waldgeists jock was always watching enable and following sottass(started it at 12sec following sottass and looking for enable every few seconds), I thought he had a gap to go between them but intenionally switched wide as enable seems to like a close battle and how right he was.
I still don’t go with the ground that did her as she managed to produce top speed in the race I just think she was tactically out done.Here are the occasions Timeform described the ground as on the soft side of Good for the Arc at Longchamp:
The time Waldgeist put up was 2m31.97
1993 Urban Sea 2m37.9 described as Soft
1995 Lammtarra 2m31.8 Good-soft (off a cracking pace)
1998 Sagamix 2m34.0 Good-soft (pace of the race was slow)
1999 Montjeu 2m38.35 Heavy
2001 Sakhee 2m35.87 Soft
2003 Dalakhani 2m32.3 Soft
2010 Workforce 2m35.3 Soft
2012 Solemia 2m37.68 Heavy
2013 Treve 2m32.04 Good-softBolded are Arcs within half a second (half a second either way).
Closest to Waldgeist’s time are Treve’s 2013 and Lammtarra’s 1995 both described as good-soft off a similarly fast pace.
Dalakhani’s was the other within half a second and that was described as soft. I personally wouldn’t put Waldgeist as high as Dalakhani.Those times suggest to me the ground for this year’s Arc was Good-soft bordering on Soft. Fair enough if anyone would call it just about “soft”. Certainly not very soft or heavy or “horrific”.
Enable’s first King George was run in at least as soft as this. imo Ground conditions can not be given as an excuse for the fav. However, I would like to see the sectionals!
Of six market principles (those at betfair odds of less than 100/1) Ghaiyyath led and finished well beaten last of those six. Magical chased him in the race and finished 5th. Although travelled well for a long way beat a retreat in the final two furlongs, finishing a fair bit behind the first four. Enable raced behind those two but in front of the other three with a fair chance. Sottsass followed Enable with Waldgeist and Japan further back… And although I believe Waldgeist raced a little in front of Japan in the early stages, it was Waldgeist that challenged last of all the six market principles. Enable did better than all that raced in front of her and better than Sottsass who raced just behind. Did they go too fast either early-on and/or once turning for home? ie With the most efficiently ridden horse coming through to win? So although not “outstayed” as such, it may be true Enable had nothing left to fight off the horse with the better judged ride. Actually, tbh more like the one who did not have the pace to race inefficiently.
Value Is EverythingHaha,
Believe it or not, I hadn’t read LD’s post/link before writing the above. Value Is Everything
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