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- June 30, 2004 at 13:13 #1471
A book of systems which I have had for many years examined the success of newspaper selections.
I have adapted the findings to try out the following system which I haved titled Press Gang
Rules: <br>1. In the Daily Mirror, pick out any horse selected by both Newsboy and Bouverie. <br>2. If it is priced 5/2 to 4/1 (inclusive) in the betting forecast, it is a selection.
Yesterday there were 2 qualifiers: Shannon Waters (LOST) and Aahgowangowan which WON 9/4.
Today there are three qualifiers:<br>Tag Team 3.10 Lingfield<br>Influential 4.20 Perth<br>Astromancer 8.55 Yarmouth.
June 30, 2004 at 14:16 #54139Good luck with this one, Steve, but I wouldn’t hold out a lot of hope for two reasons:
1. Newspaper tipsters like Newsboy and Bouverie are very good, but have to give a tip for every race which means giving about 36 selections each today. In the circumstances they do well to only lose around 10 % of their stakes over a long period.
2. Systems based on selections around the 5/2>4/1 area are very difficult to turn a profit with, mainly because such selections are popular and tend to be overbet.
It might be better to take the opposing view and frame a system around horses that are only tipped by one tipster. These horses tend to be decent odds and can prove profitable as Rich N Ford has proved.
July 1, 2004 at 09:32 #54142Thanks Artemis for your good wishes & advice. I am actually following the RNF system, but wanted to complement it with an opposite approach.
I will keep records of profit/loss for July and we’ll see what happens.
I intend to use a syaking plan of 1111122233
Thursday 1st July – 4 selections:
Riyma 2.30 Yarmouth<br>Zimbali 3.30 Yarmouth<br>Premier Rouge 4.50 Haydock<br>Emerald Penang 6.55 Epsom
July 1, 2004 at 21:21 #54143I like Wright Choice ( Times Online ) and Templegate ( Sun online ). Their daily selections are both available on the internet and cost nothing.
July 2, 2004 at 13:54 #54144Results for 1st July L L L Emerald Panang WON 9/2.<br>Outlay 4 Returns 5.5.   (In fact the winner was available at 5.3/1 on Betfair)
Today 2 July 04<br>Master T 3.00 Southwell<br>Euwiluwil 5.15 Southwell<br>Smart John 7.00 Haydock
Master T and Euwiluwil are available at around  6/1 on Betfair.
Thanks for the comments on the idea.  The logic behind it is basically that Newsboy tips 25% winners overall, with at present a level stake loss of 9%.   By following horses that are also tipped by Bouverie and limiting the <br>forecast range to 5/2 to 4/1, I reckon we have a decent chance of a profit.
The system produces 3 or 4 selections a day and they usually have lots to recommend them (top rated, distance etc)<br>
(Edited by steve layden at 9:10 pm on July 2, 2004)
July 2, 2004 at 20:04 #54145Today we had L L and Smart John WON 5/2<br>Running total 2 out of 7  Outlay 7 Returns 9 (Profit +2)
<br>(Edited by steve layden at 9:11 pm on July 2, 2004)
With the 2 winners available at 5.3/1 and 3/1 on Betfair, the profit using this betting medium is 3.3 points
<br>(Edited by steve layden at 9:13 pm on July 2, 2004)<br>
(Edited by steve layden at 10:11 am on July 3, 2004)
July 3, 2004 at 10:58 #54146Two selections for Saturday 3rd July 04:
Portrait of a Lady 3.40 Leicester<br>Flipando 4.05 Haydock
Also two for Sunday 4th July:
Green Prospect 3.20 Market Rasen<br>Prenup 3.20 Redcar<br>
July 3, 2004 at 17:34 #54147Well done Steve.
July 3, 2004 at 19:10 #54148Thanks Andy<br>Portrait of a Lady WON at 1/1<br>Flipando WON at 3/1
Results in July: LLL W9/2 LL W5/2 W1/1 W3/1<br>4 out of 9 Outlay 9 Returns 15 Profit 6 points
Let’s hope Sunday goes well!
July 6, 2004 at 20:33 #54149Latest results:
Sunday 4th July L L<br>Monday 5th July L WON 8/15<br>Tuesday 6th July WON 11/4 L L
Summary: 6 out of 16<br>Outlay 16 Returns 20.25 Profit 4.25 opoints
July 7, 2004 at 09:51 #541503 selections for Wednesday 7th July 04:
Bamzooki 1.40 Lingfield<br>Borora 8.15 Worcester<br>Spring Jim 9.00 Kempton
July 8, 2004 at 10:28 #541511 winner out of 3 yesterday BORORA WON 4/1
Running totals: 7 out of 19 (36%)<br>Outlay 19 Returns 25.25 Profit 6.25 points.(32%)
Today’s selection (Thurs 8 July) <br>Platinum Charmer 8.10 Doncaster
July 8, 2004 at 16:37 #54152I have done little research but I’ve been told that when Fallon is riding a horse in the last race of a meeting that the Sunday Mirror nap, it is profitable. Maybe someone who can be bothered will look it up :biggrin: .
July 8, 2004 at 20:54 #54153Hi Jairducochetfan
I don’t know about the Sunday Mirror, but in the whole of the 2003 Flat season, when Newsboy tipped Fallon’s mounts, they were 37% successful, returning a profit of 19 points.
Incidentally the courses at which Newsboy returned a profit on all selections in 2003 were: Newbury (by far the best), Lingfield, Sandown, Doncaster, Newmarket, Musselburgh, Pontefract, Redcar, Folkestone and Windsor.
Today’s PRESS GANG selection was a non runner (Doncaster abandoned)
July 9, 2004 at 19:06 #541542 loserstoday (Friday 9 July) Alchemist Master and Garnock Venture
Running total:7 winners out of 21 (33%)<br>Outlay 21 Returns 25.25 (4.25 pts profit)
July 10, 2004 at 12:38 #54155No qualifier Sat 10th July<br>One qualifier Sunday 11th July: <br> SILVERHAY 3.40 Haydock
July 11, 2004 at 19:30 #54156SILVERHAY WON AT 13/8
8 winners in July out of 22 (36%)<br>Outlay 22 Returns 27.9 Profit 5.9 points (27%)
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