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- October 13, 2012 at 11:24 #22805
Wading
Apollo
Nephrite
Where have they gone?
I was a particular fan of the first two and sad to not see them fulfil their potential this season.For that matter, Power too, seems to have been retired without trace. I really rated this horse and in a smaller stable he might have been a star.
October 13, 2012 at 12:07 #416522Await The Dawn
October 13, 2012 at 12:11 #416524I am afraid we are at the mercy of journalists as those with the information will not give it out unless asked – particularly if it is bad news.
Wading – went very quiet and then withdrawn from Guineas, nothing afterwards.
Not so high profile but two potentially decent fillies, Reckoning and Hepworth fought out a Doncaster maiden at the end of last season but as far as I aware nothing since.
October 13, 2012 at 12:37 #416528Sadly Apollo lost his life earlier this year, great prospect mind.
October 13, 2012 at 13:35 #416543One was killed racing in France this year.I don’t recall the name.Joseph was lucky not to be hurt.
October 13, 2012 at 14:20 #416559Furner’s Green broke his leg in France
Saw Wading at race course gallop in March, didn’t look the easiest so perhaps they never got her to where they wanted
Would like to know what has happen to Nephrite, although suspect he may have finished injured last time he ran.
Power, was also mentioned – probably have seen he is going to stud
Add another to the list – Astrology, haven’t heard about him since Irish Derby
October 13, 2012 at 17:52 #416597How about Jupiter Pluvius from a few years back? He vanished off the face of the earth.
October 13, 2012 at 19:54 #416606They must sell them to Usbeckestan wherever that is.
October 13, 2012 at 20:42 #416618Furner’s Green broke his leg in France
Add another to the list – Astrology, haven’t heard about him since Irish Derby
I just got some (fairly vague) answers from Coolmore’s Facebook page.
"Astrology, Athens, Tower Rock and Warwick Avenue are now exported to Saudi Arabia."
"Jupiter Pluvius is alive but not in training."
October 14, 2012 at 16:28 #416718A fair few go to Mike De Kock usually. Didn’t Age of Aquarius end up there in Dubai last year?
October 14, 2012 at 17:12 #416726A of A was forced in to retirement after his Goodwood Cup breakdown.
October 14, 2012 at 17:16 #416727There was a post about a year ago here that said A of A was going to stud but died due to colic
October 14, 2012 at 17:31 #416729Not saying you are wrong but RP records state A of A is still alive.
October 14, 2012 at 20:36 #416749Would very much like to be wrong, just passing on what another poster had previously posted. Did hear at the time they were hoping that he would be a NH stallion but he wasn’t recovering as well as they hoped following Goodwood.
Also checked about Apollo and RP still has him alive despite what an earlier poster has indicated.
October 14, 2012 at 20:49 #416752Indeed, you cannot trust the RP database when it says a horse is alive.
Also currently listed as alive on their records are Gloria Victis, Jair Du Cochet and Massac. That tells you all you need to know.
October 14, 2012 at 22:00 #416760Crusade another classic example. Really liked him in the Middle Park last year.
October 14, 2012 at 23:32 #416771Crusade returned this year, but disappointed. I don’t think he was held in particularly high regard at Ballydoyle – went off at a big price on debut and for the Middle Park, where he was the second string behind Reply. He was also passed over in favour of Daddy Long Legs at Churchill Downs.
So many well-bred, talented individuals could very well have been a star / stalwart at a different yard, but are a mere number amongst an over-populated breeding centre.
I suspect Astrology – poorly campaigned and utilised since his fine Derby third – will end up at the Dubai Carnival under the care of a Qatari-based trainer, much like Masterofthehorse, Beethoven and Joshua Tree.
Thankfully, Joshua Tree has been competing on a international stage that deserves and can best showcase his talent. The former Ballydoyle inmate won his second Canadian International on Sunday evening, following his Group 2 win in Deauville over one mile-seven in August.
This just goes to show what a young, ambitious, talented trainer can do with a horse if it has the necessary ability. Ironically, Marco Botti has revived the career of this horse after losing Excelebration who, quite frankly, hasn’t improved for the switch to Ireland.
No doubt Excelebration was purchased with one eye on the breeding shed, and therein lies the problem. If a colt is deemed unsuitable as a potential stallion then it will be utilised as a pacemaker, shipped to the Gulf or, if lucky, Mike de Kock – Archipenko or Master Of Hounds, anyone?
A wonderful result for the tough, globe-trotting Joshua Tree, who beat the Aidan O’Brien-trained Imperial Monarch into sixth. The latter is a talented individual who perhaps found the ground a little on the quick side. He had his ideal ground at the Curragh back in June, but had a ‘pulse in his foot’. The St Leger would surely have suited this stoutly-bred colt, but he didn’t go there either.
Shame, he could have been a real threat to Camelot…
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