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  • #4118
    sberry
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    So Darren Williams and Fergal Lynch are set to receive about 120k comp for loss of earnings until the trial result – that don’t happen in most jobs – suspension without pay is the norm.  Anyway, about 60k for 9 months or about 75k a year – not too bad.

    And poor old KF’s defence team has stated that he would not only accept a partial ban, riding only coolmore horses, but also that last year he earned less than 50k after tax and expenses, not withstanding the 400k he would have got from prize money share plus his coolmore retainer (half million plus ?) and shares from stud fees for group winners.

    Is he trying to say he earns less than DW and FL ?  The sheer arrogance of someone who is a multi-millionaire and one of the greatest jockeys to have ridden, in trying to say he earns less than 50k ?

    Unbelievable, and in the eyes of the public another self-inflicted nail in the coffin.  Please form an orderly queue to claim the reward for tipping off HMCR of a possible case of financial confusion (that’s the polite way of putting it).<br>

    #96537
    Glenn
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    Fifty large after tax and exes? Whatever else you can see about Failon he certainly doesn’t skimp on hiring the best; whether it be accountants, PR people or lawyers.

    #96538
    Aidan
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    Sberry were did you hear that or are you just reading it off the papers? The same papers that said Coolmore were not going to have runners in the UK out of protest….

    #96539
    bluechariot
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    sberry is very shrewd, I believe everything he says

    #96540
    clivex
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    It was in the Standard.

    If true, its an extraordinary stance to take. Ok, under some technicality it may be true, but frankly no on elikes their intelligence insulted. The HRA would not be impressed :angry:

    Furthermore, going forward, how would such economies of truth look when this comes to trial (if it does)? Not part of the evidence of course, but a pciture is painted…

    #96541
    Racing Daily
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    50k?  He would earn around half that amount for his recent Irish Derby win alone LOL  What about when he scoots over to Longchamp in Oct and the Breeders Cup in Nov and picks up extensive prize money on at least three probable wins?  I would guess that little tally all on it’s own would cover that fifty grand.<br>What a joke.  We may be naive sometimes, but we are certainly not completely stupid.  I somehow doubt he claims that, if he does then people will simply laugh at the suggestion.

    #96542
    clivex
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    Yes…doubt if any other jockey could have got alex up today ;)

    #96543
    robert99
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    Probably a total misquotation. UK top jockeys earn around £50K from riding fees only. Most of that does go in travel, agent, telephone, medical, valet expenses and tax. Only real money to be be made legitimately are prize money share, advertising and retainer fees. HRA have probably allowed for the latter with the other two jockies. So possibly a  total discrimination by HRA against KF.

    #96544
    clivex
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    So possibly a  total discrimination by HRA against KF.

    Why?

    As i understood it hes not due any compensation from the HRA anyway because hes not registered in the UK<br>

    #96545
    robert99
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    Quote: from clivex on 8:00 pm on July 16, 2006[br]

    So possibly a  total discrimination by HRA against KF.

    Why?

    As i understood it hes not due any compensation from the HRA anyway because hes not registered in the UK

    Clive,

    No he is not registered in UK but he is an EU citizen who regularly rides in UK for his living and has an EU right to work in UK without hindrance. That right to work has been taken from KF and the other two jockies. Ony two facing the charges are being compensated for the same loss of income source, hence the discrimination.

    #96546
    clivex
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    The compensation is discretionary. Not a right.

    As is his right to ride under HRA governance

    Whether the ban is fair or not, EU legislation doesnt come into it. As I understood it, that gives a general right to work…no more

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    #96547
    robert99
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    Discretionary should use the same considerations for all but not discriminate. EU legislation does come into it as professional bodies and MS Governments are not allowed to put arbitrary barriers in the way of professionals working in other countries. The French are past masters at excluding all sorts and getting away with it. UK in comparison obeys the EU rules to the letter. See http://www.dfes.gov.uk/europeopen/

    #96548
    clivex
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    EU legislation does come into it as professional bodies and MS Governments are not allowed to put arbitrary barriers in the way of professionals working in other countries

    Fair enough but i sense that the Eu would not see this as "arbitrary" given that charges are to be made. Until a conviction or otherwise it is an unfortuate grey area but same would apply to other professionals charged (or about to be charged) with misconduct of one sort or another

    #96549
    robert99
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    Quote: from clivex on 10:11 pm on July 16, 2006[br]

    EU legislation does come into it as professional bodies and MS Governments are not allowed to put arbitrary barriers in the way of professionals working in other countries

    Fair enough but i sense that the Eu would not see this as "arbitrary" given that charges are to be made. Until a conviction or otherwise it is an unfortuate grey area but same would apply to other professionals charged (or about to be charged) with misconduct of one sort or another

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    If a NH doctor has done something involving him in a Court case then he is often sent home on gardening leave, on full pay until after the trial. If he is found guilty then and only then his employer may feel they have grounds for dismissal. The GMC waits until all this is over before the doctor is considered for being struck off or not. Dr Shipman had killed about 250 by this time. The Professor who got cot death parents wrongly convicted got reinstated so he could continue his profession. Other professions have different rules and some have to receive a complaint from another professional member before they will even consider any action to remove a wrongdoer from the profession but they cannot usually bar a person from seeking work in the same field.

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    Anonymous
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    I suppose that he’ll be doing his Christmas shopping at Lidl now.

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