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I picked up a Racing Post this morning to have a look at the all-weather. I noticed the Paddy Power Gold Cup was on. How could I not? The usual pointless shouting over many pages about a mid-afternoon bookie benefit, and the could-be-might-be comments from jockeys and trainers. Stats all wrong to find the winner. It amazes me that the columnists can still work up the enthusiasm for losing money, never mind the Sufferers in the betting shops.
Did you think I bet in the PP Gold Cup, Ginge? Wrong! I don’t bet in races like that. Not worth it. Oh, I had tremendous fun over many years winning the odd one and then giving plenty back so that jockeys, trainers and bookies who don’t give a toss about punters can make their good livings BUT the fun has to end some time.
If by that you mean it is the ripped-off many supporting a well-upholstered few then yes, dear Betlarge.
…the Thatcher analogy isn’t quite right. UK racing is more like a cross between Chicago under the bootleggers and a socialist dictatorship from Eastern Europe.
Did you think I bet in the PP Gold Cup, Ginge? Wrong! I don’t bet in races like that. Not worth it. Oh, I had tremendous fun over many years winning the odd one and then giving plenty back so that jockeys, trainers and bookies who don’t give a toss about punters can make their good livings BUT the fun has to end some time.
Handicaps are what they are. Open races where horses are handicapped to (in theory) finish in a dead heat between all runners. Big handicaps are even more open than a normal handicap…
It’s bloody obvious they’re difficult races to find the winner; but as a result you get a bigger price than in uncompetitive races.
Am going to regret this am sure, but what do you expect Prof?
Value Is EverythingThe prof has made 465 posts to TRF, every one of them negative. What’s the motivation?
Super race. Great ride from Sam T-D. Monumental run from John’s Spirit. Very sad about the fatal injury to Kapga De Cerisy. Commisserations to connections.
Can’t wait for the Hennessey in a couple of weeks. Can you Prof
Did you think I bet in the PP Gold Cup, Ginge? Wrong! I don’t bet in races like that. Not worth it. Oh, I had tremendous fun over many years winning the odd one and then giving plenty back so that jockeys, trainers and bookies who don’t give a toss about punters can make their good livings BUT the fun has to end some time.
Handicaps are what they are. Open races where horses are handicapped to (in theory) finish in a dead heat between all runners. Big handicaps are even more open than a normal handicap…
It’s bloody obvious they’re difficult races to find the winner; but as a result you get a bigger price than in uncompetitive races.
Am going to regret this am sure, but what do you expect Prof?
Oh I know all that, dear Ginge. I’ve had my share of winners of big handicaps. But they are simply not worth the effort in my view, and they only exist to get a lot of money back in the satchel quickly. It is totally unscrupulous, and to see various luminaries of the game taking money from bookies to exhort the public to bet in such races is unseemly if you ask me. Which is why I laugh sardonically about all the waffle and brouhaha that surround them. It is also why the wider public are totally uninterested. It is also why the sport is universally known as ‘a mug’s game’. If anyone can seriously challenge those points in tones other than that of the indignant anorak, I will be happy to respond.
I like handicaps where you can keep the variables in perspective and where you have plenty of form to work with; they are virtually the only races I bet in. The eternal questions always remain. Why is x horse in the race when it is obvious to ME, a city-dwelling mug with no contacts, that he will do nothing? Why are we, the betting public, being encouraged to bet our hard-earned in ridiculous races full of guesswork?
The prof has made 465 posts to TRF, every one of them negative. What’s the motivation?
Someone has to be a realist.
Super race. Great ride from Sam T-D. Monumental run from John’s Spirit. Very sad about the fatal injury to Kapga De Cerisy. Commisserations to connections.
Can’t wait for the Hennessey in a couple of weeks. Can you Prof
I enjoy the Hennessey. I had a good bet on Carruthers when he won and I still enjoy watching the race.
My favourite race to watch of all time is Sea the Stars winning the Arc. Yours?
Super race. Great ride from Sam T-D. Monumental run from John’s Spirit. Very sad about the fatal injury to Kapga De Cerisy. Commisserations to connections.
Can’t wait for the Hennessey in a couple of weeks. Can you Prof
I enjoy the Hennessey. I had a good bet on Carruthers when he won and I still enjoy watching the race.
My favourite race to watch of all time is Sea the Stars winning the Arc. Yours?
Kauto Star winning his last Betfair followed closely by winning his last King George. Pure emotion
Oh I know all that, dear Ginge. I’ve had my share of winners of big handicaps. But they are simply not worth the effort in my view, and they only exist to get a lot of money back in the satchel quickly. It is totally unscrupulous, and to see various luminaries of the game taking money from bookies to exhort the public to bet in such races is unseemly if you ask me. Which is why I laugh sardonically about all the waffle and brouhaha that surround them. It is also why the wider public are totally uninterested. It is also why the sport is universally known as ‘a mug’s game’. If anyone can seriously challenge those points in tones other than that of the indignant anorak, I will be happy to respond.
I like handicaps where you can keep the variables in perspective and where you have plenty of form to work with; they are virtually the only races I bet in. The eternal questions always remain. Why is x horse in the race when it is obvious to ME, a city-dwelling mug with no contacts, that he will do nothing? Why are we, the betting public, being encouraged to bet our hard-earned in ridiculous races full of guesswork?
Not true Prof. The "Public"
are very much "interested"
in big handicaps more than any other race. Witness the Grand National. Most big betting races are big handicaps. Public
are
interested because they consist of bigger prices than any other type of race.
If you’ve had your "share of winners" in big handicaps then you can not complain Prof. Surely all anyone can expect is a "share of winners"?
Value Is EverythingOh I know all that, dear Ginge. I’ve had my share of winners of big handicaps. But they are simply not worth the effort in my view, and they only exist to get a lot of money back in the satchel quickly. It is totally unscrupulous, and to see various luminaries of the game taking money from bookies to exhort the public to bet in such races is unseemly if you ask me. Which is why I laugh sardonically about all the waffle and brouhaha that surround them. It is also why the wider public are totally uninterested. It is also why the sport is universally known as ‘a mug’s game’. If anyone can seriously challenge those points in tones other than that of the indignant anorak, I will be happy to respond.
I like handicaps where you can keep the variables in perspective and where you have plenty of form to work with; they are virtually the only races I bet in. The eternal questions always remain. Why is x horse in the race when it is obvious to ME, a city-dwelling mug with no contacts, that he will do nothing? Why are we, the betting public, being encouraged to bet our hard-earned in ridiculous races full of guesswork?
Most big betting races are big handicaps.
Have you got an actual list?
Most big betting races are big handicaps.
Have you got an actual list?
jan-jun14
http://www.hblb.org.uk/document.php?id=517
Most big betting races are big handicaps.
Have you got an actual list?
jan-jun14
http://www.hblb.org.uk/document.php?id=517
I saw a list some time last year, it’s obvious any list will feature many Cheltenham Festival races. But take them out and month by month apart from the King George I seem to remember the list of National Hunt races being dominated by big handicaps.
Value Is Everything
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