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- January 13, 2020 at 22:58 #1479736
Always a good race this, and usually won by a decent one……
https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/23/haydock/2020-01-18/747505
The Pipe pair of Daklondike and Champers on Ice jump off the page straight away, it’s certainly the right race for the pair of them. Hard to split them though, with both being in same ownership.
Definitly Red apparently has Aintree as the main plan this term, and victory here, which isn’t beyond him, would surely put paid to those plans. He’s high enough in the weights for Aintree anyway, and I just wonder if they’d happily settle for this. He’s got to be given a chance.
Vintage Clouds ran a respectable race here last time, and after two disastrous runs over The National Fences, he’s by all accounts, not going for a third. They don’t have to worry about blowing his mark for that, and I’d give him a massive chance at 10’s.
It’s another horse at 10’s that I really like, Geronimo. Really progressive last year, and I can forgive him his run in The Scottish National. Don’t know if it was trip, lack of experience, or whatever, that went against him that day. Whatever it was, I’m willing to stick with him here, after an excellent return at Newcastle last month over a short enough trip. From an underrated yard, and I give him a big chance. Small go just now, and I’ll have a proper swing if he gets declared.
Geronimo 10’s
January 13, 2020 at 23:26 #1479739Prime Venture looks a likely sort for this, provided Chepstow didn’t take too much out of him. Was a little disappointed to see his price as he’s still a maiden over fences, but he wasn’t beaten far last time out and unlike Definitly Red connections will be needing a win here if they want to go to Aintree in April.
January 16, 2020 at 15:12 #1479917Happy that Geronimo has stood has ground, and I’ll have a bigger go now. Just waiting to see if I can get better than 7’s.
Unfortunately Champers On Ice, Definitly Red, and Vintage Clouds are still in there too, and I think they’re all big dangers.
January 16, 2020 at 16:41 #1479926If things pan out the way I think they will, Saturday’s Peter Marsh Chase (2.40 Haydock) will look more like a John Ford movie as they head for home, with Red Indian and Geronimo leading the pack. Red Indian is particularly good value at 25/1. He relishes the mud and has a record on heavy ground of 121. Four of his last 9 runs have been in graded company, including a 4th of 7 behind La Bague Au Roi in a Grade 1.
He has 10st 11lbs here minus the 5lbs his jockey Ben Jones claims (top weight is Definitly Red with 11.10)
Red Indian has run his best races after longish breaks and he comes here having been rested for 287 days. He should not be 25/1. I’d normally back him each way but instead I will have a saver on the improving horse and the least exposed, Geronimo, who has won on heavy.
Geronimo has the almost perfect profile of an improver when you use Racing Post Ratings to measure progress. His career figures are: 103 103 107 114 114 119 123 132 135 137.
His trainer Sandy Thomson knows what he’s doing and the yard is in cracking form -4 winners from his last 10 runners with just one of those unplaced.
You can back both with Bet365 who are currently best odds and also protect you with the best odds guarantee. Red Indian is 25/1 and Geronimo 7/1.
Summary
Red Indian 25/1 win only: 3* bet
Geronimo 7/1 win only 1* bet
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January 17, 2020 at 15:44 #1480004Vintage Clouds will do for me at 17-2, I think that this is the perfect race for him.
January 18, 2020 at 10:07 #1480081The value for Red Indian is completely gone, well spotted Steeplechasing. I’ll go for the solid option with my old pal Vintage Clouds. Always seems to run his race at Haydock. Last time he was third in the Tommy Whittle Chase behind Lord du Mensil who is rated 20 pounds higher now. Vintage Clouds dropped two pounds in the weights and is now back to his last winning mark.
Vintage Clouds 7/1
January 18, 2020 at 12:25 #1480106Red Indian for me, though not quite the price that you got Joe.
I have also went with Champers On Ice, I think it’s interesting that they preferred him to Daklondike for this.
January 18, 2020 at 14:38 #1480118At the odds, 16/1 I think Flying Angel isn’t without a shout.
He’s an Ascot specialist, but they have chosen to run him here which hopefully
is a bit of a pointer.January 18, 2020 at 14:48 #1480123Well done DBR and Jeff
January 18, 2020 at 15:10 #1480141Absolute cake walk for Vintage Clouds, very well done DBR and Jeff
January 18, 2020 at 15:16 #1480142Guys what did you think of Claude and Goldie , 11 years old but only ran 9 times in UK , caught my eye for the Scottish national which the owners love having a go in
January 18, 2020 at 15:56 #1480171Well done Jeff and DBR – absolutely hosed up
January 18, 2020 at 19:50 #1480199Thanks. I was hoping with his stamina he would reel in the rivals in the final furlong, but with this positive ride he ran them absolutely ragged, impressive. If it comes up a bit soft he must have a chance in the Ultima again.
January 18, 2020 at 20:40 #1480208HDLG, I was at Kelso last month when Claud and Goldie won one of those ridiculous races with half the jumps taken out. He certainly shaped like a stayer that day and kept on well at the finish today.
He doesn’t seem ground dependant and with a low weight and few miles on the clock he could be a good each way bet at Ayr.
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