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Eight of the 10 runners in the 5f maiden at Lingfield on Thursday. Anyone know if there were any eliminations here and, if so, how would you feel if you were one of the connections of a horse that had been balloted out (particularly when the obligatory non runner appears)?
dont forget that Jimmy Lamb had both runners in a 3m2f Cartmel novice chase a few years back and that went ahead ok.
If Paul Grayson needs his horses to have a run then whats wrong with what he is doing, if prize money is their then why not try and win it aslong as all horses run on their merit
If eight Grayson yaks were ahead of one of mine in the ballot I’d feel more of a sense of embarassment than anger!
Peter? Paul? How about Larry then…
He’s obviously exploiting a loophole and the authorities need to "shut that door"…
No, seriously I don’t think there is a problem here and I would be surprised if the ballot was an issue…
dont forget that Jimmy Lamb had both runners in a 3m2f Cartmel novice chase a few years back and that went ahead ok.
That’ll be this race, then. Typos etc. are the Post‘s rather than my own;
CARTMEL
30th August 2004
Good To Soft4:35 Beetham Organisation Novices’ Chase (Class E) (Class 4) (5yo+) 18 fences 3m2f
1 Caislean Ui Cuain (IRE) J J Lambe 8 10-12 Tony Dobbin 2/5F
2 Zurs J J Lambe 11 10-12 p Mr Daniel Keenan(7) 15/8“A dismal turnout with just two stable companions in action and credit to J J Lambe for not pulling one out and taking the money without a contest but there was not a lot to get excited about in the race itself as CAISLEAN UI CUAIN was always in command, setting a steady pace, winding things up a circuit out, ridden clear on the flat and scoring pretty much as his form entitled him to.
Zurs had shown a similar level of ability to the winner over hurdles but had to give him 7lb with a penalty for last week’s Perth win and always looked second best in a race which told us very little about the abilities of the pair. “
The winner, of course, went on to finish placed in the same season’s National Hunt Challenge Cup at exotic odds. It can’t be too often a Cartmel winner has done that, not even dual course winner and all-purpose hero Ei Ei.
Only 50 horses contested the six races on the card that day, around 25 below Cartmel’s stabling capacity, and the ground was far from the most testing it can be at the track. As much a case, then, of a pox on the houses of those other trainers who wouldn’t enter a horse in the contest (first prize: £5328, inclusive of a few hundred quid for some of the original third and fourth pot) as it was a reward for Jimmy Lambe’s enterprise.
Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)PS The same card concluded with that one single solitary maiden hurdle that Les Arcs ran in just before his wildly successful wind operation, and which people still use to tar him as a “failed hurdler”. Tsk tsk.
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11 declared, 10 able to run. The unfortunate (?) animal balloted out was a certain Swindon Town Flyer.
Do horses that haven’t run enough times to qualify for a mark get preferential declaration rights over those that have? By my reckoning only Swindon Town Flyer would have a mark from that race.
Swindon Town Flyer has a mark of 68 and is/was the only horse entered with a h’cap mark.
There is a long elimination procedure, but basically (for a maiden) placed horses get preference, followed by horses that haven’t run, followed by horses with less than three runs.Thanks marko. As Swindown Town Flyer was placed 3 times last year, why is it he has been balloted out then?
Sorry, the first part should have read placed horses that have run fewer than three times
forgive me for being dumb but if any of the horses need a run, shouldn’t he be doing that at home, on the training gallops, etc ? if it has to be on a racecourse he can do what trainers do at lingfield often enough which is run a few horses after the racing has finished
it’s bad enough ‘buying’ a race like this to carve up as you see fit but if you’re also using it as public training it’s even worse imo
the average joe punter will not be amused by this
(i notice one’s price has tumbled a bit on the exchange)
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