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Paul Eddery on Dickie Le Davoir at Doncaster

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  • #15718
    Black Sam Bellamy
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    Did anyone see that ride ? I am speechless.

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    Avatar photoMatthew01
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    Did anyone see that ride ? I am speechless.

    No, what happened :?: I was on the winner, Divertimenti…

    #307966
    conundrum
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    Lost many lengths at start. Jockey content to cruise several lengths behind the field. Seemed to be going very well despite the deficit. Some effort to move closer to the field about furlong and a half out. Still appeared to have plenty of horse beneath him. Timid pushing on the reigns a furlong out when all other jockeys were very animated. Horse finished like a train though got going far too late to catch the winner. With another furlong would probably have won easily. One to note for the future. My only criticism would be that Matthew backed the winner, allegedly.
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    #307968
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    Missed break and dwelt, switched in running, ran on well beaten around 4 1/2 lengths.
    What concerns me more is that this is the poor horse’s 16th run in 6 months !

    #307970
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    I’ve backed Dickie before, it’s a hold up horse isn’t it?

    Let’s face it Paul Eddery should have turned it in years ago, how old is he now?

    #307971
    conundrum
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    Could understand Coggy’s concern if we were talking of a three mile chaser but over six furlongs? Some hacks cover more than that most days of the week.

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    Could understand Coggy’s concern if we were talking of a three mile chaser but over six furlongs? Some hacks cover more than that most days of the week.

    Must be quite stressful all the travelling though, one of my biggest criticism’s of some
    Owners is greed and there are those that run their poor animals into the ground.

    Give the poor things a rest.

    #307974
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    Can’t recall a 6 furlong animal trained by Messrs O’Brien, Stoute, Cecil et al running 16 times in 6 months guys – I wonder why. Racing itself is stressful enough but the travelling as well up and down to places such as Hamilton is just imho just greed and too much for a horse

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    Can’t recall a 6 furlong animal trained by Messrs O’Brien, Stoute, Cecil et al running 16 times in 6 months guys – I wonder why. Racing itself is stressful enough but the travelling as well up and down to places such as Hamilton is just imho just greed and too much for a horse

    Yeah, exactly as I pointed out Coggy.

    #307977
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    Agreed Matthew. The poor thing should be given more time between races or a break at some time

    #307979
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    16 times in 6 months is nothing for a sprinter. Look at Transfixed last night having her 50th run in about 16 months.

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    16 times in 6 months is nothing for a sprinter. Look at Transfixed last night having her 50th run in about 16 months.

    How do you know how the poor horse is feeling, a bit like a horse having to. Compete on the national, I disagree with that aswell, but that’s a separate argument.

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    Read his form …

    The horse invariably dwells or starts slowly … more or less every single one of his 9 wins contains the remark "held up" …

    His running style always leaves him vulnerable to a horse that skips out of the stalls and doesn’t come back to the field … as with Divertimenti today …

    Finally, I’m not sure any of us are qualified to comment on the horse’s wellbeing in terms of the frequency of his outings … again, look at his record … he is clearly a horse that thrives on his racing …

    The reference to "the greed of his owners" is, in my opinion, grossly unfair and totally irrelevant to the original point of this post, which was to highlight a potentially injudicious ride by Paul Eddery.

    #307983
    conundrum
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    Matthew wrote…..Give the poor things a rest.

    Is it any worse than Matthew writing 466 posts in three months? After all guys, what’s good for horses is good for humans. So give the poor thing a rest otherwise he’ll end up with writer’s cramp.

    #307984
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    Matthew wrote…..Give the poor things a rest.

    Is it any worse than Matthew writing 466 posts in three months? After all guys, what’s good for horses is good for humans. So give the poor thing a rest otherwise he’ll end up with writer’s cramp.

    Hahahaha.
    I love a good debate, especially when it involves Horse Racing, Sports etc.

    #307986
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    16 times in 6 months is nothing for a sprinter. Look at Transfixed last night having her 50th run in about 16 months.

    How do you know how the poor horse is feeling, a bit like a horse having to. Compete on the national, I disagree with that aswell, but that’s a separate argument.

    … er, Matthew … if you don’t mind me saying, I think you’ve just contradicted your own argument …

    "How do you know how the poor horse is feeling" ? … that’s exactly the point … you don’t and I don’t … he probably loves his racing and would sulk like hell if left to kick his heels in his box.

    Just my opinion, but I think the trainer and stable staff are probably best placed to make that judgement, don’t you ?

    #307987
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    Sorry to disagree Bluechariot and Burrough Hill Lad, and I do respect your opinions, but you do not see a sprinter from the yards of O’Brien, Stoute, and Cecil running that often (even the less talented inmates) – and there is a reason for that

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