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  • #6296
    Firestorm
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    The horse im sure was called Past something…i remember when i was young my father always having a bet on this horse, he was ridden i think by Andy Turnell , colours being red with black cap or visa versa,,, think colours belonged to Jim Joel..?,thing about this horse was that he refused to race more than he did, but when he did decide to race he would win … im going back years now , any of the "older Racing people remember him ?

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    Pompete
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    If it was around 87-88’ish and running in 2 mile hurdles, Jim Joel had a horse trained by Josh Gifford called Lypento (?) that I seem to recall had a similar profile.

    #136049
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    You could be talking about Pas Suel trained by Bob Turnell and ridden by Bill Rees but who owned him I have no idea.

    Can’t think of any horse owned by Jim Joel with the name Past……….knew a few who wouldn’t go past like Beacon Light :wink:

    Wish you luck with that one got me beat

    #136056
    stilvi
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    This isn’t the horse you are thinking of because he had nothing to do with Andy Turnell but I seem to remember Vodkatini becoming something of a punter’s nightmare.

    #136063
    Ugly Mare
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    Past Master? 10 y o gelding in 1963. Not that I remember him of course :lol:

    #136083
    Ravel
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    Past Glories? Might have run in the Cesarewitch. A useful hurdler afterwards.

    #136137
    Adrian
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    Past Master (by Master Owen) was a once consistent hurdler for J Bower (owned by D Dipple). In the 71/72 season, as a 5yo, he won 6 of his 15 starts and placed in 5 others – usually ridden by a claimer S Coathup who took 5lbs off and obviously had a good rapport with him.

    In January 75 he was still winning useful races like the Wills Handicap Hurdle at Haydock – still for the same connections but with John Suthern in the plate.

    However he later tranferred to D Plant and the Bill Clay’s yards and he became a thorough dodge pot. He rarely jumped off and even if he did he gave everybody a good start.

    #136174
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    hi Adrian,

    Thanks for putting me right on that one, I must have got the year wrong, however I thought that Reg Crank rode this Past Master at some point??

    #136180
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    Past Glories? Might have run in the Cesarewitch. A useful hurdler afterwards.

    My mate John Quinn rode him in the Champion to a place……..Bill Elsey had him for a time and I think he did run in the Ces…..but would go past anything far from being a rougue

    #136237
    Firestorm
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    It was either 1960 something or 1970 something….my dad always followed Bob and Andy Turnell , and Jim Joel , and it was definatley NH… I was only young then but remember those names vividly….Pastmaster does seem familiar Ulgy Mare…Wish I could remember more….. :oops:

    #136242
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    ….me too, I know the feeling :lol:

    #136245
    Firestorm
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    Im going to try and get in touch with Andy Turnell and ask him …..because its driving me mad now….. :? I can even see the horse at the start line in my head refusing to move !!!

    #136249
    Adrian
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    I’ve done some digging and Past Master (who had the right profile if not the right connections) used to run in Orange, green chevrons and green cap.

    #136265
    Firestorm
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    Adrian do you think it is the horse i mean…? the Turnell/Joel connection being that i can remember only those names, may have confused me, as i was young at the time…. :oops:

    #136270
    yeats
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    Can’t think of any horse owned by Jim Joel with the name Past……….knew a few who wouldn’t go past like Beacon Light :wink:

    You must be getting mixed up with Birds Nest who used to hang all over the shop, Beacon Light was a thoroughly genuine individual.

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