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Nothing if not predictable Andy! Ur right – Henry’s handling of the horse was atrocious.
Mr Bolger would have run him 11 times as a 2 year old and he would have been finished by July of his 3 year old career with a win record of 8/21
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Soft ground in Ireland defies description.Remember Camelot struggling to win the Irish Derby on "soft" ground at the Curragh this year?May in fact have ruined his season.John Oxx is a very wise man.
Yes, agreed. As is Sir Henry. I wonder if they both benefit from having the last word, and O’Brien doesn’t?
Pity he is not afraid to run his horses in the Derby too like some others we know who train for the Arabs.
Went on to win the Champion Stakes if I recall with New Approach sometime after July.
Much as I admire everything about the way Frankel’s career has been handled, I have to agree that if an O’Brien horse was ridden the way Bullet Train was on Saturday there would have been a much greater level of disapproval.
I don’t suggest for a second he was run as a spoiler, that clearly wasn’t the intention, but the, for want of a better phrase, messing about could have had race-losing consequences for any rivals who were impeded.
The use of multiple horses in the same race for tactical reasons will continue to be an area which is likely to court controversy.
Pity he is not afraid to run his horses in the Derby too like some others we know who train for the Arabs.
Glad to see you back on proper form Andy after a couple of actually quite reasonable posts! It is a bit like that bit in "We need to talk about Kevin" when he gets ill and loves his mum for a couple of days. "We Need to talk about Andy" doesn’t have quite the same ring though. Perhaps "What’s eating Andy Od?" would be better.
I wonder what you would say if Jim Bolger came out and said Dawn Approach wouldn’t be running in the Derby?
Oh wait a minute….he DID say that!!
Different though I’m sure hey?
"this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"
Much as I admire everything about the way Frankel’s career has been handled, I have to agree that if an O’Brien horse was ridden the way Bullet Train was on Saturday there would have been a much greater level of disapproval.
I don’t suggest for a second he was run as a spoiler, that clearly wasn’t the intention, but the, for want of a better phrase, messing about could have had race-losing consequences for any rivals who were impeded.
Well my original point was not really about any of those things – which are covered by stewards anyway.
I was more meaning that it didn’t look like BT ran on his merits with the jockey taking a severe tug and looking round.
Mike
Thank you Cormack,not often I get such support.I was shocked that the rider of the pacemaker was not in before the stewards as would have happened to a Ballydoyle rider.But I suppose Aidan is a lacky of the Coolmore Mafia whereas Henry is a Knight of the Garter.Frightful difference you now.
Cormack what level of disapproval were you referring to?I thought I was the only one to raise the subject.I saw nothing in the official racing newspapers about the subject…yet.
Andy – To be honest there wasn’t much for the stewards to get excited about, no one was intereferd with, etc (although the potential was there for that) but I do think that the AOB tactics do tend to get more attention that others (perhaps deservedly as they are the most obvious exponents of team tactics).
Mike – almost all pacemakers aren’t run on their merits I think. The odd one will fluke a win but on the whole they are sacrificial lambs.
Anyway – Frankel showed he didn’t really need his brother to tow him along at all (at least not these days).
Cormack next time you see an obvious display of team tactics by Ballydoyle do me a favor and bring it to my attention.(There was not a negative word about the riding of Johnny Fortune on Confront in the Corals Eclipse when after losing his role of pacemaker he kept going to ensure So You Think could not get out to challenge Workforce.He failed.)Ballydoyle make multiple entries for the simple reason that they have so many horses that then never know which is best.They knew their best 3yocolt this year so they did not make multiple entries in the colt classics.The fillies classics were a typical example of Ballydoyle not knowing which was best so they ran them all and won both with"outsiders".I’m an honest critic of Ballydoyle when I think they deserve it and a loyal defender when they don’t.
Ballydoyle make multiple entries for the simple reason that they have so many horses that then never know which is best.They knew their best 3yocolt this year so they did not make multiple entries in the colt classics.The fillies classics were a typical example of Ballydoyle not knowing which was best so they ran them all and won both with"outsiders".I’m an honest critic of Ballydoyle when I think they deserve it and a loyal defender when they don’t.
The mans got a point.
I can’t remember definite ballydoyle pacemakers messing around like bullet train on saturday; they run at the front then drop back and everyone knows what to expect.
Ballydoyle make multiple entries for the simple reason that they have so many horses that then never know which is best.They knew their best 3yocolt this year so they did not make multiple entries in the colt classics.The fillies classics were a typical example of Ballydoyle not knowing which was best so they ran them all and won both with"outsiders".I’m an honest critic of Ballydoyle when I think they deserve it and a loyal defender when they don’t.
The mans got a point.
I can’t remember definite ballydoyle pacemakers messing around like bullet train on saturday; they run at the front then drop back and everyone knows what to expect.
But Bullet Train was racing purely as Frankel’s private pacemaker. Bullet Train was not running as pace maker for the race as a whole in order to assist Frankel. Presumably connections viewed that the only way Frankel could lose is if he did not run his training gallops style pace and BT was an essential part of ensuring that, which is why BT rider searched back for F.
BT was certainly not being ridden on its merits and Stewards should have enquired. No one was going to rock that boat, that day, though and another blind eye was shown to the rules of racing.
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