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February 22, 2008 at 22:25 #145662
Bullwark talks sense here.
Noland is going to be better suited to the hurly burly of Cheltenham but it will not be enough for him to win.
4-1 best priced Noland is still silly – I completely agree that it is the bookies that cut him moreso than punters forcing them too.
He was way too short before Friday’s effort and as I and many others have expressed he will be too slow for the Arkle.
I much prefer Tidal Bay at 10/1.
He is a classier beast and possesses tactical speed.
Zip
February 23, 2008 at 09:58 #145756Glad to see that Psychomodo is ok, was a horrible fall.
Leslingtaylor looks a good bet in my opinion for the Arkle.
February 23, 2008 at 10:12 #145758Think the horse could lack experience for Cheltenham and is no value at the price.
February 23, 2008 at 10:14 #145760Think the horse could lack experience for Cheltenham and is no value at the price.
Leslingtaylor? ? ?
February 23, 2008 at 10:21 #145762Sorry Gaz’s I was referring to Noland
February 23, 2008 at 10:33 #145766Sorry Gaz’s I was referring to Noland
No problem.
The same could apply to Leslingtaylor which would be the only doubt in my opinion, but apart from that, the horse does look a good prospect at a decent price.
February 23, 2008 at 11:29 #145794Glad to see that Psychomodo is ok, was a horrible fall.
Seconded. There is a picture in the Post, amazing shot but it looked like a sore one!
I still struggle to see why Noland is so short for the Arkle. He has beaten very little in the way of quality over fences so far (My Petra is rated 128) and it has been said all along (his trainer included IIRC) that he needs further than 2m. It may be argued that his short price is due to his corresponding hurdle win 2 years ago, for which the form has worked out nicely, but I’d be far more inclined to summise that it is in fact because of the P F Nicholls beside his name on the racecard.
February 24, 2008 at 00:13 #145984I think Noland’ll walk it. Like to stick my neck out sometimes.
But I also quite like the form of the ex-French horses, Big Buck’s and Kruguyrova.
February 24, 2008 at 08:22 #146000Read that on Nicholls slot on teletext the other day, nicholls even said in the article below that he that he was in "tip top shape", the betting on him also indicated that more was expected today, if sportinglife report now says that isnt the case then there something wrong somewhere…
Arkle hotpot Noland runs at Sandown
Published: 21/02/2008 (Sport) Lee Mottershead
RACEGOERS at Sandown tomorrow are set to see a Cheltenham Festival favourite in action after Paul Nicholls last night announced Arkle Trophy market leader Noland an intended runner in the track’s 2m novice chase, writes Lee Mottershead.
Nicholls had been considering both the Sandown race and Saturday’s Pendil Novices’ Chase at Kempton, but Sandown was always the preferred option for the 2006 Supreme Novices’ Hurdle hero, who trades as short as 11-4 favourite for the Irish Independent-sponsored Arkle after his winning chase debut.
Nicholls said: "John Hales is very keen to get a run into him on an undulating track, so we have wanted to run him at Sandown. Andrew Cooper says that he has put water on the track, and after what he has told me the horse is an intended runner.
"He’s in tip-top shape now after picking up a bug at Folkestone. If we get him to Cheltenham in top shape, I’m sure he’ll be the one to beat."Yo Bull what PN said and what you in toiur first post said are miles apart. You said the horse was in Cheltenham winning form now,,,,,,,a statement made by PN about Master Minded.
What I read from what PN said is the horse is very well and this race should put him right, if he comes out of it ok then we will have time to get plenty work into him and get him bang on for Cheltenham.
The only thing wrong is you saying something that was clearly way off the mark.
However no harm done, the most important thing is that they know he can lie up with a decent pace and if he does come out of the race ok we will see a different Noland at Cheltenham when he will be 100% fit.
If he is within 3 lenths of the leaders about 2 out i just cant see anything outstaying him
March 2, 2008 at 19:37 #147907well hello peeps soz i havent given much info lately but have been in spain withn the showjumpers since beginning of feb, on way home now nobby is fit and well so bare with me till tues til i arrive back in england for the latest as still in france at min, roll on nobby………………….. x
March 2, 2008 at 19:58 #147916Could do with somthing to boost the confidence. I backed the horse at 16/1 and now he is 3/1 fav……..how come I don’t feel anymore confident now than I did 2-3 months ago?
I honestly think he’s a shockingly bad price for what he has done over fences so far……hope he wins but far from confident and glad I also had the insight to back Tidal Bay when he drifted.
March 2, 2008 at 20:19 #147926i really dont know whats what till i get theses hporses back to uk weve had few runners last few days so have to get on catch up x
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