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  • #145547
    Himself
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    Arkle winner ? Hmm ?

    Not judging by that performance.

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    #145548
    Gazs Way De Solzen
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    Sounded like a horrible fall there from Psychomodo, especially as it sounded like Psychomodo was challenging Noland all the way.

    #145550
    davidbrady
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    Horrible fall there for Pyschomodo who was going well enough too (wasn’t finding less than the other 2 anyway)

    Workmanlike victory for Noland IMO

    #145551
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    Just listened to it on william hill, they think he was workmanlike but he won like he wanted further but as they pointed out, it will be a much faster pace at cheltenham and will play better to his strengths

    #145552
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    Should Tidal Bay run in the Arkle, the race is his to lose. I still maintain that he’s the most talented novice chaser at The Festival.

    The only horse I’ve seen thus far that is capable of progressing and competing against the best between 2 – 3 miles next season.

    #145553
    Fist of Fury 2k8
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    I hope he gets a decent warm up today and races against a couple of decent animals before he goes to the Festival……

    You can have 50s with me that he runs again after today and before the Arkle- no chance.

    I think you would give me 50’s about him in the Arkle now :lol:

    However these little poxy races are no guide to his chances in the Arkle. If he goes for the race I wouldn’t let that race influence me one way or the other………

    #145558
    Zoso
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    Was not very impressive but I think he is a better horse at Cheltenham so can improve on that, he certainly will need to though to be fair.

    #145559
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    Just listened to it on william hill, they think he was workmanlike but he won like he wanted further but as they pointed out, it will be a much faster pace at cheltenham and will play better to his strengths

    Bulwark, that is absolute tosh!
    His strength isn’t his pace, even though given a very positive ride today he was still unable to put distance between himself and some relatively modest horses. He won’t see where better horses went in the Arkle.
    This horse needs further over fences, a point I made some while back when this particular ball of hyperbole was set rolling.
    If he were mine, he wouldn’t go near the Arkle.

    #145561
    LetsGetRacing
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    I think the point he’s making, reet, is that a fast pace around Cheltenham will invariably bring stamina in to play.

    #145565
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    I think the point he’s making, reet, is that a fast pace around Cheltenham will invariably bring stamina in to play.

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    The times are as yet unavailable, but I suspect today’s race was run at a decent clip.
    If he can’t go any faster than he did today, which the way he ran suggests, the first 3 will be home and hosed before his stamina has any bearing.

    #145570
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    If we had a 2m4f Graded novice chase then Tidal Bay would win as i dont think he has the speed for 2m.

    Noland is improvinmg all the time and will be the one to beat in the Arkle as long as he keep on song.

    Dont forget in the Supreme Novices he beat the likes of Sublimity,Sweet Wake,Buena Vista,Natal,Crow Wood and Jazz Mesenger so it is fair to say he is the class horse of the race

    #145573
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    I’m not in agreement with Bulwark’s statement, reet, just trying to make clear the point he was making.

    I had backed Noland on the strength of his debut victory and subsequent effort of Polinamix, but I’m holding out little hope after today’s performance.

    #145577
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    Im not overly down about the performance, obviously it would be nice if hed destroyed them going away but a good jumping performance and a winning performance isnt all that bad. At the end of the day last years winner was a world hurdle winner who was pulled out of the ryanair last minute. I got on him at 16s and Id still have him as one of the top contenders, I would never have backed him at his recent price and I suspect that those who have backed him in that far may be worried about the win bet as the betting would suggest that more was expected today. I wouldnt say hes not going to finish in the top three though on that run…

    #145580
    davidbrady
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    He’s still the horse to beat IMO but he’s no banker.

    #145590
    NeroWolfe
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    Although Noland wasn’t impressive, it doesn’t look a great field for the Arkle and I’m not at all sure who I think could beat him.

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