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    sandwith100
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    Strange, the bookmakers cut Ballabriggs for winning a couple of hurdles and then leave him unchanged when he gets beaten over fences? Even allowing for the winner having a new lease of life, he found disappointingly little off the bridle and I think there are big doubts about him staying the trip and even if he did whether he is good enough.

    I was at Kelso and i wouldn’t read anything too much into it. They went no pace early on. The front two are nice horses. Whether they have the stamina for the National is guesswork. One thing that strikes me about the National these days is that apart from Amberleigh House, nothing has come from a mile back to win. If the ground is quick you need a horse with a bit of pace to keep up in the first half of the race. The winner is usually in the front group by Beechers second time. These two could cope with that. Not sure the likes of Silver By Nature would be within 25 lengths at this stage on decent ground.

    #343643
    Avatar photopeter .h
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    Yeah Aintree is a front runner track best suited for those who like to stick up with the pace for a long way out…

    Though Mon Mome is a hold up horse, but the incident at Bechers was the difference maker that year, so really we can stick with front runners to stay safe, but we can’t forget the one indeterminable stat in the race: luck.

    #343672
    moehat
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    Synchronised is actually by Sadlers Wells, KC; not sure if any more are as I haven’t looked at all of them.

    #343696
    fivelongdays
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    Has Notre Pere been scratched, then?

    Twitter=@PGHenn

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #344486
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    no probs, from the female racegoer :lol:

    vf

    Well she’s all you’d ever want
    She’s the kind they’d like to flaunt and take to dinner
    Well she always knows her place
    She’s got style, she’s got grace, she’s a winner.

    She’s a Lady. Whoa whoa whoa, she’s a Lady
    Talkin’ about that little Lady, and the Lady is

    ours

    .

    My work here is done!
    8)

    #344543
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    Has Notre Pere been scratched, then?

    No he is very much still in the lineup…

    #344753
    Avatar photoRedRum77
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    Looking at everyone’s list I’m surprise at Bluesea Cracker not mentioned.

    Here’s my list for the national

    1 Don’t Push It
    2 Niche Market
    3 State Of Play
    4 Arbor Supreme
    5 Northern Alliance
    6 Tricky Trickster
    7 Ballytrim
    8 Oscar Time

    and not forgetting the fairer sex

    9 Bluesea Cracker :wink:

    I’m hoping the winner is amongst the nine.

    #346216
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    Phil Smith aught to keep an eye over his shoulder, because the connections of Ballyfitz are going to want to shoot him… many times. Can’t believe the form he’s in and that he is pretty much guaranteed to miss out on the National…

    Course with that said the connections of Merigo, Giles Cross, Junior and Regal Heights are probably all coming up on strategies on how to murder him…

    No… no i’m not wrong i am very much correct.

    #346253
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    reading news on sportinglife website about denman staying on in training next year, and commenting on other gold cup finishes, its reported that midnight chase will go to aintree but for the betfair bowl and will do the national next year, if im reading it right?

    and tidal bay goes straight to aintree, as they think he has a good chance the way he is running his races lately

    vf

    #346258
    moehat
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    Good news about Tidal Bay; it means that, if Don’t Push It didn’t run the weights wouldn’t go up much, so we know where we are, weight wise with most of them. Ballyfitz’s jockey said he took to it very well last year; such a shame that, with the bad weather some horses din’t get a chance to improve their OR. Would have loved the old boy to have won today; he deserves a big race..jumped beautifully. Just imagine, DPI, Ballyfitz and Tidal Bay in the National..what a parcel of rogues. Maybe next year for the Twisters Fitzer.

    #346286
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    removed trocky trickster and midnight chase
    as well as snowy morning

    vf

    #346292
    moehat
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    Did Snowy run in the Foxhunters in the end? Don’t think he did. Does anyone know if he’s ok?

    #346306
    msercs
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    Some bookies are beginning to go NRNB already. I will be doing mine now to save the drama of going into the bookies on the day (stopped by the protestors outside and then a queue of 10 people in front who have never placed a bet) Anyway, back to the point you often find the winner is linked to jockeys/trainers that have done well at Cheltenham.

    Im going for Backstage at 14/1 Best odds gauranteed bet 365 and Oscar Time 14/1 likewise.

    The winner will come from one of those two in my opinion.

    What does everyone else fancy at this stage?

    Martin

    #346355
    Avatar photoRed_Evie
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    Backstage as my main hope, then Merigo and Hello Bud if either get in, not sure on how the list of weights and who gets a run works. Info will be much appreciated.

    #346358
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    Decided to add Our Monty to my shortlist. Hasn’t run in almost 2 years, but he’s only got 10-3 and has good staying ability, winning the 3, 4 Cork National in his last appearance.

    Notre Pere
    Deep Purple
    Giles Cross
    One Cool Cookie
    Roll Along
    Royal Rosa
    Vic Venturi
    Hello Bud
    Saddlers Storm
    Our Monty

    Removed Midnight Chase due to the 3 miler at Aintree and i’ve ditched Le Beau Bai and Chief Dan George. Neither one is in any convincing form.

    #346359
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    Current longlist from the top 55 in the weights:

    Ballytrim
    Big Fella Thanks
    Bluesea Cracker
    Calgary Bay
    Frankie Figg
    Killyglen
    Niche Market
    Oscar Time
    State of Play
    The Midnight Club
    West End Rocker

    Shaping up to be a cracking race with bottom weight around 10-2.

    #346364
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    Oooh interesting call on Frankie Figg. I never figured he’d stay the trip, but stranger things have happened.

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