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  • #346655
    Warming Trends
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    An insurance policy, cant see anything wrong with it if its there to be taken.

    That’s my opinion too, people are wanting to plot against the man for the whole Binocular debacle, but this seems rather innocent.

    It is absolutely against the rules. I think the reasons people are " wanting to plot against him" as you put it , run deeper than the Binocular incident. In his drug trial Hendersons attitude and explanation were wholly unacceptable , more recently in the RCVS hearing on the same case it was revealed that Main and Henderson knowingly and regularly administered TA on raceday to bleeders , falsified the records and invoices using the term ‘pre race examination’ to deliberately hide the fact that they were breaking the rules. Given the new evidence brought about by this hearing , given that the RCVS found Hendersons testimony unplausable and given that the drug was undetectable before 2009 and Henderson said in his own words we didn’t know it was a DETECTOR if we did we wouldn’t have used it !! ….given that he has now had another horse test positive ( for anti inflammatory steroids found in ‘allergy medicine ) surely the original case against Henderson must be reopened ? The fact that he has brazenly broken yet another rule by backing his horses to lose and proclaiming it in a headline in the racing post , MIGHT just have got peoples backs up don’t you think?

    #346656
    Anonymous
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    it’s ( yet another ) clear breach of the rules by the old Etonian.

    And the relevance of his school here is…..???

    Isn’t it time to stop this witch hunt, people? It’s all

    so

    last week….

    #346660
    Glenn
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    There need to be serious repercussions for this…

    …the call centre worker who took this bet should be given their p45 and struck off from working in the betting industry ever again.

    #346661
    Prufrock
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    It may be time to end any "witch hunt" but it is not time to end a perfectly reasonable call for an investigation of an apparent clear breach of the rules.

    The rules quoted above seem straightforward, and the BHA has additionally indicated that any bet seeking to profit from your own horse’s failure – such as backing the other horse in a match – constitutes a breach of the rules. The magnitude of the bet and the "nett profit" argument have been considered unimportant in past cases also.

    Where is the statement from the BHA confirming that this behaviour is unacceptable? Where, for that matter, are the investigative journalists holding Henderson and the BHA to account?

    Not a squeak from the Racing Post, of course. The whole thing stinks.

    #346665
    Warming Trends
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    it’s ( yet another ) clear breach of the rules by the old Etonian.

    And the relevance of his school here is…..???

    Isn’t it time to stop this witch hunt, people? It’s all

    so

    last week….

    Believe me Pinza I would be more than happy if there was no relevance at all . Somehow I think that’s unlikely. A witch hunt implies that the innocent are being hunted , do that analogy is quite wrong , Henderson is guilty and I would be astounded if anyone who has read the transcripts of both the BHA hearing and the RCVS hearing could come away thinking that justice has been done and that it should be swept under the carpet . If you are happy with the goings on at seven barrows Pinza then that is up to you , you have been an apologist for Henderson on every thread concerning him . It is not your place to say others should not be asking questions and demanding answers from the regulatory authorities , it’s not even your place to recommend what should or should not be discussed on here as you seem to have done each time the subject is brought up. You must be happy with the leniency of the BHA and the media blackout in the racing post and on channel 4 , I for one am not.

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    Avatar photoMr. Pilsen
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    Hen Knight did this for years. She used to have a few quid on all the other horses in a race that Best Mate contested, maybe her other charges as well. Can’t remember any fuss being made about it.

    #346714
    Anonymous
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    it’s ( yet another ) clear breach of the rules by the old Etonian.

    And the relevance of his school here is…..???

    Isn’t it time to stop this witch hunt, people? It’s all

    so

    last week….

    Believe me Pinza I would be more than happy if there was no relevance at all . Somehow I think that’s unlikely. A witch hunt implies that the innocent are being hunted , do that analogy is quite wrong , Henderson is guilty

    So his being an Old Etonian

    is

    relevant, then? To

    what

    , precisely?

    And

    WT

    , you’ve just defined a "witch hunt" perfectly. Real innocence or guilt has nothing to do with the matter – it’s a mob response to some person or people on the

    assumption

    that they are

    guilty

    of something or other. Which is precisely how you’ve stated the case with regard to Henderson, above.

    I have absolutely no special sympathy or liking for Henderson. The reverse if anything. He’s not the kind of person I find congenial. His breach of the rules concerning the positive test on the unnamed horse who ran two weeks ago will be dealt with and punished in due course. But the howls of

    "guilty!"

    (here, fuelled by the potty irrelevance of a chap’s schooling) are a thing I would view with distaste, no matter who was being hunted.

    The general idea of Justice is that a person is Innocent until proven Guilty. Witch hunts like this are, quite simply, despicable.

    #346718
    Avatar photoCav
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    Agree. His background and place in the social order should be completely irrelevant. Its preposterous to suggest his festival lay bet in any way influenced the participation and running of his horses last week, almost as preposterous as his evidence to the RCVS enquiry, imo.

    The rule says he cant lay his horses with anyone. He broke the rule.

    #346723
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    They used to burn witches outside my front door in the square that centres our street. The area was also used for archery practice. Certainly no shortage of potshots continuing Hendersons way. I’m sure we can also collect some faggots, strike a vesta or two and conduct an historical re-enactment.

    #346753
    Avatar photoMighty M
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    They used to burn witches outside my front door in the square that centres our street. The area was also used for archery practice. Certainly no shortage of potshots continuing Hendersons way. I’m sure we can also collect some faggots, strike a vesta or two and conduct an historical re-enactment.

    Based on recent events, I suggest that we can leave it to Mr H to bring his own accelerant.

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