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- September 22, 2008 at 21:46 #182007
Such a shame Mike cos apart from that, allbeit poor behaviour, I thought the US team were to coin a phrase..Awsome. I can’t help thinking Faldo, though was a prat.
September 23, 2008 at 12:00 #182059I’m not a big golf fan as such, though I have played a round or two and like watching the major tournaments.
Faldo comes across as a very arrogant man. His pithy exuses when trying to explain the loss was lamentable to say the least.
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September 23, 2008 at 12:27 #182067Not sure what type of things they said but Lee looked quite upset about it and to say it was shameful must mean they said some dispicable things to him.
That said, there is an element of Westwood having brought this on himself by being too critical of Boo Weekly’s more effusive mannerisms and stoking up of the crowd earlier on in proceedings.
Arguably the stick meted out to Ian Poulter at the start of the year for suggesting that, "I haven’t played to my full potential and when that happens, it will be just me and Tiger", and also to whichever British player it was who said he basically didn’t like Americans very much (can’t remember if it was Poulter again or not), should have set enough of a precedent for Westwood to convince him to keep his thoughts to himself on this occasion.
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September 23, 2008 at 12:43 #182071and also to whichever British player it was who said he basically didn’t like Americans very much (can’t remember if it was Poulter again or not)
That was Casey, and it cost him his Titleist sponsorship IIRC.
I think you’re right about Westwood keeping his trap shut for fear of retribution from the American fans, and at least one more example of such behaviour from them springs to mind, but either way it is a sad state of affairs to be honest.
September 23, 2008 at 14:46 #182081Ah, that rings a bell re: Casey – ta for the reminder!
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September 23, 2008 at 23:01 #182135I don’t see how any blame can fairly be laid at Faldo’s door.
First, his picks. Casey, who had an ok Ryder Cup but should have won his singles, was almost every golf commentor’s first pick, and uncontroversial. Poulter justified his selection in full, and it is extremely unlikely that Monty or Darren would have done as well.
Second, the reasons we lost. Principally because two of the top European players, Garcia and Harrington, were well below their best. Reasons have been advanced – Garcia recently not well, Harrington knackered after his performances in the Majors – but clearly neither felt he should withdraw and give fitter/less knackered players a chance. No way Faldo can be held accountable for such sub-standard performances. Secondarily, superb play by several of the US team in the singles – Oliver Wilson, for example, played very well but was down by the turn to an opponent who played the first nine in 29. Faldo, Monty or Seve at their best would have had difficulty living with that.
I thought it was an excellent, competitive Ryder Cup after a couple of one-sided ones, and see no reason for embarrassment at the result or recriminations about Faldo’s captaincy.
September 25, 2008 at 02:59 #182225GeorgeJ, What feelings do you have about the team spirit? Faldo was not the man IMO.Much of what you wrote about selections I agree with in hindsight.
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