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The first horse walked through the area perfectly, then as you see the following two were exposed to currents of electricity. I suspect foul play here. It could be that this was an (single file) experiment… as an alterative to what they might have been doing on the track
If the current was on the track it could be possible the horses travel fast enough to pass through without a fatality, resulting in what just appears to be a poor performance. We all know there is equally as much value in a poor performance.
God give me strength
Your attitude to dismiss things is incredible,are you a member of the Newbury management team?
Have a look at this article http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserver/ … ath_threat
Very obvious you need to consider all eventualities when things like this happen
Were any of you there today with first hand knowledge? I thought initially this had happened as the horses entered the parade ring but I don’t think that’s true – as I read somewhere that the jockeys were approaching to be legged up – so had they all been walking round for sometime before the incident happened – and therefore had gone over the actual ground without a problem?
Its imperative that this investigation not only looks at what happens but also at why the first race went ahead.
Please god the press give racing as much negative press as possible over this, not because I’m spitefull but purely because they deserve it and need to be accountable for their actions which I seriously feel they won’t be.
Oh get a grip for god’s sake. A bit of perspective please.
You’re talking like this is 9/11. Two horses died (more probably died on the race course today than in this incedent), an accident happened, a few people made hasty and probably ill judged decisions under immense pressure and confusion. No maliciousness involved, just a hell of a lot of never seen before circumstances.
It’s hardly a capital offence, yet you want the press to linch everyone involved and bring racing to its knees over it.Of course there should be an enquiry but get off your high horse and go watch the telly for a bit.
The first horse walked through the area perfectly, then as you see the following two were exposed to currents of electricity. I suspect foul play here. It could be that this was an (single file) experiment… as an alterative to what they might have been doing on the track
If the current was on the track it could be possible the horses travel fast enough to pass through without a fatality, resulting in what just appears to be a poor performance. We all know there is equally as much value in a poor performance.
Seems bit far fetched although anything possible. Either way it sad day for racing fans. Oh and gutted to read that Money Trix broke leg this afternoon. My heart goes out to all trainer and owners who lost horses today.
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Fist – very simple. If the vets didn’t know what caused the deaths then how on earth can they declare the remainder safe to run if they don’t know what the cause could be….
In terms of Newbury and their decision, your wrong in me not knowing anything as it was a fact that there was two unexplained deaths, you don’t need to know anymore than that, that’s enough to cancel racing.
Vets do not have the authority to cancel racing they checked the horses that had gone to post and declared them fit to run.
They can give their opinion to the stewards who would then contact the powers that be who can make the decision but until they do that it’s business as usual I assume.
It is unfortunate this thing happened but it is so unusual and unexpected no one would be prepared to handle it. Under the circumstances they did a damn good job in a very short space of time.
The fact the horses died is sad but that has never been and never will be a cause to cancel a meeting but if there is any possible danger to other horses and more importantly people then they will cancel and that is what they did.
Your only beef is they ran one race which, as someone already made clear, made not an ounce of difference. No further horses or people were hurt so what’s the big deal?
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Yes your right I do want that. Difference of opinions but I’m not telling you to get a grip. I accept your opinion but money/loss of revenue was the reason management acted so irresponsibly today, not pressure/confusion.
The fact there was such confusion says straight away CANCEL RACING.
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Fist – very simple. If the vets didn’t know what caused the deaths then how on earth can they declare the remainder safe to run if they don’t know what the cause could be….
In terms of Newbury and their decision, your wrong in me not knowing anything as it was a fact that there was two unexplained deaths, you don’t need to know anymore than that, that’s enough to cancel racing.
Vets do not have the authority to cancel racing they checked the horses that had gone to post and declared them fit to run.
They can give their opinion to the stewards who would then contact the powers that be who can make the decision but until they do that it’s business as usual I assume.
It is unfortunate this thing happened but it is so unusual and unexpected no one would be prepared to handle it. Under the circumstances they did a damn good job in a very short space of time.
The fact the horses died is sad but that has never been and never will be a cause to cancel a meeting but if there is any possible danger to other horses and more importantly people then they will cancel and that is what they did.
Your only beef is they ran one race which, as someone already made clear, made not an ounce of difference. No further horses or people were hurt so what’s the big deal?
Could you answer my question please, would you stay at work?
Were any of you there today with first hand knowledge? I thought initially this had happened as the horses entered the parade ring but I don’t think that’s true – as I read somewhere that the jockeys were approaching to be legged up – so had they all been walking round for sometime before the incident happened – and therefore had gone over the actual ground without a problem?
Reports filtering through of lads and lasses feeling electric sensations prior to the incident. Maybe the point only became ‘ live ‘ at that point. Until the horses were in the parade ring, would anyone notice ?
Jonjo says that Kid Cassidey was first out and acted very strangely. Then Fenix Two past the same point and we all saw what he didWere any of you there today with first hand knowledge? I thought initially this had happened as the horses entered the parade ring but I don’t think that’s true – as I read somewhere that the jockeys were approaching to be legged up – so had they all been walking round for sometime before the incident happened – and therefore had gone over the actual ground without a problem?
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I understand that the incident happened once the horses moved on to the grass to get mounted. The main walkway around the paddock is a rubberised surface and would act as an insulator against the elctricity. As soon as they moved on to the grass near to the source then presuming there was electricity, and it still hasn’t been absolutely confirmed, then they would have been affected by it.
For what it’s worth after 12 pages of posts… make that 13, and far too much bickering, I was surprised that the race did take place after the incident. But then I’m not charged with running a racecourse, and hindsight is a fine thing.
Rob
Yes your right I do want that. Difference of opinions but I’m not telling you to get a grip. I accept your opinion but money/loss of revenue was the reason management acted so irresponsibly today, not pressure/confusion.
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How on earth do you know that? You haven’t the foggiest idea.
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The first horse walked through the area perfectly, then as you see the following two were exposed to currents of electricity. I suspect foul play here. It could be that this was an (single file) experiment… as an alterative to what they might have been doing on the track
If the current was on the track it could be possible the horses travel fast enough to pass through without a fatality, resulting in what just appears to be a poor performance. We all know there is equally as much value in a poor performance.
Seems bit far fetched although anything possible. Either way it sad day for racing fans. Oh and gutted to read that Money Trix broke leg this afternoon. My heart goes out to all trainer and owners who lost horses today.
Hang on a second, last year a bunch of idiots decided to send a donkey in a parasail above the Baltic sea, do you really think it’s impossible that some scumbag could of used a taser gun at todays racing???????
This work is full of some sick people and whilst it’s EXTREMELY unlikely that this happened it still shouldn’t be taken for granted and the management team at Newbury did a terrible job today in how they handled things as if an incident such as this did take place (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY), they will never catch who did it.
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The first horse walked through the area perfectly, then as you see the following two were exposed to currents of electricity. I suspect foul play here. It could be that this was an (single file) experiment… as an alterative to what they might have been doing on the track
If the current was on the track it could be possible the horses travel fast enough to pass through without a fatality, resulting in what just appears to be a poor performance. We all know there is equally as much value in a poor performance.
God give me strength
Your attitude to dismiss things is incredible,are you a member of the Newbury management team?
Have a look at this article http://menmedia.co.uk/rochdaleobserver/ … ath_threat
Very obvious you need to consider all eventualities when things like this happen
Not anymore Dick Francis died
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I’m starting to fear that a lot of people here probably work in the industry or are connected to it in some way and will go to any lengths to protect those involve. Let’s hope the papers lead with this story tomorrow. The incident needs to be exposed to ensure all questions are answered and not just the ones that suit those involved and ensure the meeting is put back on asap.
The first horse walked through the area perfectly, then as you see the following two were exposed to currents of electricity. I suspect foul play here. It could be that this was an (single file) experiment… as an alterative to what they might have been doing on the track
If the current was on the track it could be possible the horses travel fast enough to pass through without a fatality, resulting in what just appears to be a poor performance. We all know there is equally as much value in a poor performance.
Seems bit far fetched although anything possible. Either way it sad day for racing fans. Oh and gutted to read that Money Trix broke leg this afternoon. My heart goes out to all trainer and owners who lost horses today.
Hang on a second, last year a bunch of idiots decided to send a donkey in a parasail above the Baltic sea, do you really think it’s impossible that some scumbag could of used a taser gun at todays racing???????
This work is full of some sick people and whilst it’s EXTREMELY unlikely that this happened it still shouldn’t be taken for granted and the management team at Newbury did a terrible job today in how they handled things as if an incident such as this did take place (EXTREMELY UNLIKELY), they will never catch who did it.
mate tbh i dont really care. Untill investigation complete and not intrested in such pointless debate. You seem to be in need of women love or something becase your going on and on about it. Give it rest please
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I realise I’m going on about it and I apologies for it but at same time feel it’s neccesary to ensure people don’t sweep this under the carpet as they have done in the past on seperate issues.
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